The greatest day in my journey through ancient coinage

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Sallent, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    There are many wonderful days in an ancient collector's journey through the coinage of the ancient world. After all, most of us are coin junkies and will probably manage to get at least 20 coins this year. But seldom are the days we can truly call great...the days where we get a coin we never thought we'd have the opportunity to own, and the days where we get one special coin that leaves us giddy with joy and amazement.

    Today is such a day for me. My Julius Caesar lifetime portrait denarius is finally in my hands after some unfortunate delays at the post office.

    Oh boy, I feel like I just hit a grand slam home run at the World Series with this one. For all of you non-Americans, the soccer equivalent would be scoring the winning penalty shot at the World Cup.

    All that said, this was an expensive coin by my standards, so to go with the expensive theme I photographed it with some appropriate currency for the background. :D I'm being a bit of a drama queen with these pictures, aren't I?

    So without further adieu, here is Julius Caesar himself in coin form, minted only weeks before his death on March 15, 44 BCE.

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  3. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    In addition to the lifetime portrait, another compelling aspect of this coin is that it was struck within a few months of Julius Caesar's assassination. The connection to one of history's most dramatic single events staggers one's imagination.
     
  4. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    That is one heck of a coin and one I might only be able to dream of. Personally I also like the bankers mark and find it well located in an unobtrusive location on the obv. and it totally missed everything of significance on the rev. Awesome Grand Slam score!
     
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  5. pihiyomi

    pihiyomi New Member

  6. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    I like the way you phrase this! For me that is the way I always feel. Not that I am supremely positive, but just that my collecting interests have no direction whatsoever. Each and every coin I get is a surprise because I didnt even know I needed or wanted it!

    Anyway, nice coin. When I saw the image I was hoping you paid $100 for it!
     
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  7. pihiyomi

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  9. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Love it man!
     
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  10. pihiyomi

    pihiyomi New Member

    there are many differences
     
  11. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    Your comment is useless without some sort of explanation of what leads you to believe that.
     
  12. pihiyomi

    pihiyomi New Member

    Compare between two pics
     
  13. alde

    alde Always Learning

    That is a wonderful coin with a realistic portrait. Any collector would be proud to own it. Congratulations.
     
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  14. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    There are 36 known die pairs for this particular issue. There will be differences between individual coins.
     
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  15. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    These types come in many varieties, and there were likely a number of different engravers, so yes, there will be differences between dies. The OP coin is a die match to Alföldi Type IV, 141. Here's one that sold at CNG.
     
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  16. pihiyomi

    pihiyomi New Member

    These types come in many varieties, and there were likely a number of different engravers, so yes, there will be differences between dies. The OP coin is a die match to Alföldi Type IV, 141. Here's one that sold at CNG.

    Also compare!
     
  17. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    You do realize ancient coin dies were hand engraved by different celators. Even the same die type made by the same celator would not have been identical each time due to being hand made.

    Also, differences in the strike quality, alignment of the coin on the flan, and wear patterns from circulation, as well as environmental damage from burial, can make even coins from the same die look different to the untrained eye.

    I don't mind someone calling my coin fake if they can back it up. No offense as you are new here, but I'm starting to suspect you are way over your head here.
     
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  18. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The difference between the OP coin and the CNG coin is that the OP coin has some circulation wear and CNG coin is flatly struck on a portion of the flan. The dies however, are identical. If you're a newcomer to ancient coins, you will learn that the striking techniques did not allow for the kind of homogeneity you find in modern coins. Even coins struck from the same dies will exhibit many differences.
     
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  19. pihiyomi

    pihiyomi New Member

    likely one of the "portagees" of fake :bookworm:
     
  20. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Sallent-- wonderful coin! What a thrill that must be for you :)

    As for new member pihiyomi, he/she sounds quite a bit like a recent troll who creates a new user name almost daily and is repeatedly banned. Just ignore :)
     
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  21. pihiyomi

    pihiyomi New Member

    :eek: it's my personal opinion
     
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