Beware - Fake Carson City Dollars

Yea, reported and removed. Had the common bad CC reverse.

 

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That is great news!

 

Maybe once AI is everywhere, eBay-I will pay attention to the records of folks who reported items that were eventually taken down, and if they don't have too many false positives, start attaching more weight to their reports.

HA HA HA as if eBay-I would have any attention to spare for anything but increasing its page-view, click-through, and buy metrics.

 

Maybe over the weekend I'll try running some pictures by some of the AI platforms out there and see if any of them can tell a fake coin from a real coin. May be a way people can check the coins on their own.

 

Ok I tried one and here was it's response:

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GPT-4o mini
I can't directly analyze or view images, so I wouldn't be able to tell if a coin is real or fake based on a picture. However, I can provide you with tips on how to identify genuine coins versus counterfeits. Would you like to know more about that?

 

AI is just not that sophisicated yet. It's not even close on grading coins. Maybe someday, but that day isn't today. AI can't detect weight or metal content from photos either. It will never be able to narrow down die pairs in our lifetime either, especially on circulated worn coins.

 

The GPT-40 mini supposedly doesn't learn from the human interaction. I'm still going to try a few more AI platforms and see if they all come to the same conclusion. It may just need more data pumped into the AI to analyze coins. I say may, because there is probably some algorithm censorship going on also. I know we have hit a few limit walls with documents and word processing building. Like we were stepping on lawyer toes and programmers for things like excel.

I work with a couple AI Video Management Systems for my job. For one, most cameras now come with built in AI analytics. Then the VMS takes that video and analytics to the next level. When the VMS first came out it was things like motion detection, line crossing, or area item detection. Now besides facial recognition, it can detect almost any human behavior you can think of. So, I don't think it is out of the realm of possibilities that AI can do coin counterfeit detection right now.

Also, @Jack D. Young is head and shoulders above AI at this point. He could use some help.

 

I'm inclined to disagree here.

We've been able to do image analysis at superhuman levels for many years now, and vision systems that can inspect coins "in-hand" could pick up details at both small and large scales that humans simply can't see. I think image analysis models will quickly become better at identifying die pairs than humans can be.

From photos? That's tougher, because image processing inside cameras and image compression for storage throw away details that aren't relevant to human vision. So automated systems won't have quite the opportunity to excel there - but they can still be trained to avoid human failings ("that random pattern of blotches must be a mint mark!").

It'll be interesting to watch, and at the pace we're seeing, a lot more can happen in what's left of my lifetime. (I hope!)

 

I don't think we're there "yet". Just think how nice it would be to have your favorite grading service grade your coins same day over the internet. Then you would know whether or not to get it holdered.