I waited 13 years for a chance to buy this coin!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by lordmarcovan, Dec 18, 2025 at 5:49 AM.

  1. Histman

    Histman Too Many Coins, Not Enough Time!

    Great story and provenance. Congratulations!
     
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  3. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Fantastic pick up, congrats.
     
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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Yes, someone else on Collectors Universe mentioned that. Makes sense, and explains why everyone I’ve seen in old daguerreotypes looked so serious.

    I guess a lot of them also had their heads clamped in a hidden vise to keep them still, which can’t have been comfortable.
     
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  5. Dafydd

    Dafydd Supporter! Supporter

    That's a great coin, great story and fantastic provenance. We really need to be thankful to previous collectors for hanging on to old labels and envelopes as I am sure a lot of slabbed material gets separated from the provenance material. A major TPG lost a paper Sotheby's envelope I sent with a coin to be graded. The envelope had been written up with the lot number and contents of a shipwreck coin with the buyer details and now the lump of plastic simply says the ship it was recovered from and it joins the anonymity of hundreds of others. I hope you succeed and that your ancestors provenance is recorded on that label but give them a photocopy of the labels. I would never ever give a TPG original paperwork again.
    Ironically I have been grading a number of shipwreck coins to ensure the wreck provenance stays with the coin exactly for the reason that I was concerned I might lose the original COA's or other paperwork.
    This is my Balbus ex-Navilles with a different control letter under the Quadriga.
    I bought mine as a VF which I thought a fair and accurate grade but if you look at the details on your coin I would call it EF for an ancient. Compare the details of the wings of my Victory to yours as one example. You can see every feather or pearl but mine are worn flat. I stand by the VF grade of my coin. Given the large shadow upload_2025-12-18_22-34-56.png upload_2025-12-18_22-37-33.png stain on the reverse of mine it would probably come back as "environmental damage". Yours is beautifully evenly toned and you won't have such problems with your coin @lordmarcovan , it is as good as you can get.
    I'll be interested to see what crazy grade they give your coin , for the life of me I cannot understand their points system on ancients.
    Congratulations on a great success.
     
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  6. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    All around cool! Nice coin, great provenance/pedigree, and an awesome connection to your family that was worth waiting for!
     
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Sage advice. Fortunately I’ve always done that (submitted photocopies, not originals) when I’ve submitted provenance documentation to a TPG.

    Thank you for the detailed comparison notes on your example. Very encouraging.

    PS- FWIW, while I can’t speak for NGC or any other TPG, I don’t think the reverse toning on your piece rises to the level of “environmental damage”. And I think your piece has a handsome portrait.
     
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