SEGS coin holders

Someone recently asked me if the color of the insert on an SEGS coin holder has any significance. They have an Indian Head Cent in a holder that has a pinkish color insert. Does anyone know if that means the coin is cleaned? Is that just the color they use for copper?
I know the old PCI holders were green for straight grade coins and red for cleaned or damaged coins. I don't know if SEGS uses a similar formula. Any information will be greatly appreciated. James

 

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I'm not quite sure if the color means anything on the inserts.
I do know that problem coins that SEGS identified will list the problems on the holder (like "Cleaned"), have the word "Details," and include a star under the denomination. See the example below.



image courtesy of icollector.com

 

@Burton Strauss III or @Conder101
do either of you know if there is any significance to the color of inserts?
I also believe that the slab itself for SEGS has always been the same. Is that true?

 

Every SEGS slab I have ever see has been the same color, except for the overexposed pic above.

 

+1

 

I have seen variations that have the US flag (or stars) in the background and some that don't (although those might have just been the picture like you mentioned).

Here is an image where you can see the stars:


http://news.coinupdate.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1882O.jpg

 

I can ask Larry Briggs about any label varieties he has used but I most likely won't see him until the MSNS Convention in April. I'll offer the caution that there is a chance I'll forget about this by then. LOL

 

Yes it relates to the metal composition of the coin in the holder. There are four colors brown, gray, blue, and yellow for copper, coppernickel and clad, silver, and gold (Take those color descriptions with a grain of salt.). But the colors are light and my problem is I can't distinguish between the copper and gold labels , or the clad and silver labels. They appear the same to me.

 

I have not seen the holder personally, but he was quite specific that the insert color was pink. The coin is described as MS-64 RED. I wonder if that is a clue. I would think it would be hard to mistake pink for yellow. Then again my dad was color blind. I will have to see if I can get a look at it myself. Thanks for replies.

 

Conder is correct, the copper coins have a slight pink wash.

And of course, were one to look at SEGS' page...

http://www.segsgrading.com/Content/OurProduct

One of the premier features of the SEGS capsule is the “top viewing” label, so unique it was granted U.S. Patent #0423, 757. Our labels are also color coded to further assist you in classification and storage of your encapsulated coins. This combination of features allows effortless cataloguing and retrieval of any “particular” coin. The SEGS capsule eliminates the hours spent trying to locate any “specific” coin. The front and rear surfaces of SEGS capsules are designed to nest and are easily held and completely stackable on a flat surface.

Silver All U.S. silver coins (excluding U.S. Dollars)

Printers Ink Lavender All U.S. Dollars

Copper All U.S. Copper including some Early Colonial Coppers

Blue All Foreign coins, Medals, Tokens, etc.​

Also, a small point - patent #423757 is for "Jumping Jacks" from 1890.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US423757A/en

They mean Design patent D423757, https://patents.google.com/patent/USD423757S/en

Which is a very different animal. Although design patents are usually much weaker than utility patents, the Apple vs. Samsung case is a fight over design patents.

It doesn't matter, however as the patent expired in 2014.

 

Well, here I thought this was going to be about how difficult they are to crack. Neat bit of info about the labels.

 

Nothing is difficult to crack if you own a bandsaw or a Dremel.

 

So we now have two descriptions of the color labels and their meaning...

per @Conder101...

brown - copper
gray - coppernickel and clad
blue - silver
yellow - gold​

per SEGS website...

Silver All U.S. silver coins (excluding U.S. Dollars)
Printers Ink Lavender All U.S. Dollars
Copper All U.S. Copper including some Early Colonial Coppers
Blue All Foreign coins, Medals, Tokens, etc.​

 

Conder is color blind. Seriously.

I once had a color blind boss who spent half a morning making all the colors on Windows 3.1 look nice to his eyes.

Three of us walked into his cube for a meeting, took one look at the screen and ran out yelling "my eyes, my eyes".

Apparently shades of red looked like restful greys to him.

 

Had a roommate who was color blind. Couldn't see red. The only way he could figure out stop lights was that there was no yellow or green and if he looked closely he could see a greyish glow where the red should be. I drove most of the time.

 

Ironically I saw a SEGS coin holder with the exact color of insert (pink) that the holder I asked about had in a post by the moderator Idhair. The coin inside is a gold coin graded ms-66.

 

As a 30+ year past Design Engineering Specialist for a 90,000 employee international company, who taught "Adult Education" College courses in "Practical Design", I commend the firm for the holder design, and the sometimes quality of the grading. I generally LOVE the product, except when removing the encapsulated coins without destroying the holder, for resubmitting the coins to the 2 "Premier" TPG.

When resubmitted to them, The "Premier" TPG have often affirmed SEGS grading quality of my Gold "sight seen" acquired coins.

A Great Product! Kudos!

JMHO

 

Given the overall pink cast (wrong white balance on the camera), it's hard to tell what the actual shade of the insert was.

In hand, it's clearly not beige or white, but it's not strong enough to really jump out at you unless you have another one next to it. It's sort of a mental tickle (is that a different shade?)...

 

It seems from the post here that I need to speak with our printer about sharpening our colors. You do however have to be able to read the text so you can't go too dark.... might could go brighter but not much darker❤

 

Or maybe a colored border with a white background for the printing?