My Current Interest in Julia Domna Coins

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  1. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Since I started getting into Roman coins, I've had an interest in Julia Domna's history.
    Pretty sure a lot of people know of her history already so I won't post it all over again. Lately I've been picking up more and more of her coins. Some with interesting reverses, and of course some common ones. This is one of my most recent one.

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    Julia Domna, under Caracalla, 198 - 217 AD
    Silver Denarius, Rome Mint, 19mm, 3.28 grams
    Obverse: IVLIA PIA FELIX AVG, Draped bust of Julia right.
    Reverse: MATRIA DEVM, Cybele standing facing with legs crossed and resting arm on column holding drum and sceptre, lion at feet.
    RIC383

    Thanks again @Ken Dorney

    Oh and its my first lion coin too. :)
     
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  3. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Such a pretty OP coin. Did you catch my recent thread on Julia Domna?

    To this day this is still my favorite coin of a Roman Empress in my collection. Yes, the picture is accurate, it does have that gold toning that accentuates the design.

    Julia Domna DIANA LUCIFERA.jpg
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Mice OP coin.
    Julia Domna 6.jpg Julia Domna 5.jpg Julia Domna 2.jpg Julia Domna 7.jpg Julia Domna 3.jpg
     
  5. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I almost bought one of her denarii last weekend, but I had to put her off in favor of scarcer coins that I would not see as often.
     
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  6. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Yes I did. Nice Domna coin. I'm still green that @TIF got the one I really wanted. :( But thats ok, I'm going to keep hunting for one.
     
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  7. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    Very nice denarius icerain! I just have provincials with her.

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    Sarmatia, Tyra. Julia Domna AE24. Cybele

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    Cilicia, Hieropolis-Kastabala. Caracalla AE25. Julia Domna reverse

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    Pisidia, Parlais. Julia Domna. Cult Image of Men

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    Thrace, Callatis. Julia Domna AE18. Eros
     
  8. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Nice addition IR.
    About a month ago I started a side collection of empresses. I had a Julia Domna watched on Ken Dorneys Vcoins I finally decided to go ahead and buy it yesterday. I patiently wait for it now.(it's already shipped)
    I've yet to photograph any of them, when I get closer to my goal I'll share them here on CT.
     
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  9. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Nice coin icerain, I have to admit she does present well on her coins.
     
  10. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Here is an uncommon Julia Domna type:

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    IVLIA AVGVSRA
    MATRI CASTRORVM . "mother of the camps" or "camp mistress"
    empress seated left holding eagle (RIC says Phoenix) on globe in right and scepter in left, two standards before.
    18 mm. 3.42 grams. 12:00.
    Struck 197 or 198 at Rome according to Hill.
    Sear 6596. Similar to BMC 58, plates 28.10, much more crowded than this one. RIC 568 "S". Hill 298 (197 AD, R2) or 370 (198 AD, R3).

    Many JDs are much better stuck than this one. If you just want a portrait of JD, this is not the type to get. However, the type is a fascinating testament to her role in government. Resorting to reference works, one finds that, "for the type" it is as nice or nicer than most.
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I have too many to pick favorites but these are my favorites anyway.
    Alexandria mint, typical example
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    'Emesa' mint with IICOS reverse legend (women were not consuls but this mint did not worry about die mismatches)
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    There are many Venus coins but this is the only one I have seen that spells out VENERI VICTRICI completely.
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    ...unless you count this one that reads VENEBI VICTBICI and uses the same obverse die.
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    I mentioned that the 'Emesa' mint played it loose with die pairings but I also have this exact die used with a Septimius obverse. The basket of fruit is not common for either.
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    This very early Rome mint die has a face more like Manlia Scantilla than most Domnas. The coin was overstruck on an earlier coin. I believe I see Commodus' eye and nose looking up from Julia's head. I have owned this coin for 54 years.
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    The legionary reverse from Nicopolis is an interesting pairing for an empress. The obverse legend begins Thea (goddess) which is a bit much considering the portrait style suggests it was made a decade before Julia died. I'd like to know more about this coin.
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    If you aren't tired of seeing this one, you have not been reading my posts. The reverse shows Caracalla and Geta shaking hands no more than four months before Geta's murder. To the best of my knowledge it is the only one of the coins showing the two together struck after Septimius died.
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    This is my favorite Julia type. The exact type was known to Cohen (#250) from a coin in the French National collection (which I would love to see if they ever photograph it). I have two. The photo shows both on top of each other demonstrating that they are die duplicates. As with so many 'Emesa' coins, the reverse would seem more appropriate for a male ruler but neither Septimius or Pescennius Niger used the type. I really want to see any others of these if any are found.
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  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    :rolleyes:

    Wow Doug, that's a pretty tough act to follow!

    Hey, icerain => wow, congrats on that OP-stunner!! (total winner)

    Ummm, yah sadly, I still only have this one example to toss into your cool thread ...


    Julia Domna. Augusta, AR Antoninianus
    Rome mint
    AD 193-217
    Struck under Caracalla AD 215-217
    Diameter: 23 mm
    Weight: 5.76 grams
    Obverse: Draped bust right, wearing stephane, set on crescent
    Reverse: LVNA LVCIFERA, Luna, with fold of drapery floating around and above head, driving biga of horses left
    Reference: RIC IV 379a (Caracalla); RSC 106a
    Other: 1h … VF


    Julia Domna too.jpg
    Kinda interesting, eh?
     
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  13. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Where to begin? I have so many Domnas, I'll post a representative sample.

    Under Septimius Severus:

    Denarius
    Domna VENVS VICTRIX.jpg

    Minor Bronze
    Domna Fecunditas Dupondius.jpg

    Sestertius
    Domna Venus Felix Sestertius.jpg

    Under Caracalla:

    Denarius
    Domna Matri Deum Denarius.jpg

    Antoninianus
    Domna Venus Genetrix Antoninianus.jpg
    Minor Bronze
    Domna VESTA Dupondius.jpg

    Sestertius
    Domna IVNONEM Sestertius.jpg

    Provincials:

    Domna Tomis.jpg

    Domna Marcianopolis Three Graces.jpg
     
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  14. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    My only Julia Domna, Marcianopolis with Caracalla. Ae 28mm. 338_large_fb558f62c103225261f67857ae5b6461.jpeg
     
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  15. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Great reverse type, @icerain!

    If by the French National collection you mean the Bibliothèque Nationale, you might find a photo here, they've uploaded a bunch recently: http://gallica.bnf.fr . Terrible search engine though... you might have to look through every single Domna they have.

    I love your consul type from Emesa, and the VENERI/VENEBI die match!

    My sweet portrait again:
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    Note the coquettish curl on the cheek, common on her coins and also present in some of her sculptures, e.g. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Julia_Domna_MBA_Lyon_X482-115.jpg

    And for something truly amazing, see:
    http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/works-of-art/25.78.90/
     
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  16. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Nice one, @icerain! I like the reverse type. Here's another Domna with Cybele, but seated.

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  18. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Anyone wanting an Alexandrian example should be able to easily find the following type, which is relatively common and is differentiated from Rome examples purely by style.

    Julia Domna denarius

    Obv:– IVLIA AVGVSTA, Draped bust right
    Rev:– VENVS FELIX, Venus standing left, holding apple in right hand, raising robe with left hand
    Minted in Alexandria.
    Reference:– BMCRE -. Bickford-Smith pl. 1, 10. RIC IV -. cf RIC 580 (Rome).

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    Very similar is the scarcer variation with the earlier version of the obverse legend

    Obv:– IVLIA DOMNA AVG, Draped bust right

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    Mules? or intentional mixing dies exist with reverse dies of Septimius Severus

    this example also having an obverse legend error

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    which turns up with other reverses

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    It took me many years to obtain a basket of fruit type

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    The II COS reverse are rare in general but seem to occur even less frequently for Domna than for Severus

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  20. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Julia Domna As:

    RI Julia Domna 196-211 CE AE As Hilaritas cornuc RIC IVa 877 O-R.jpg
    RI Julia Domna 196-211 CE AE As Hilaritas cornuc RIC IVa 877
     
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  21. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Great Julia Domna coins! I have a Aureus coming in March (trade for bugs) with reverse like Steve's AR Denarius....can hardly wait ;)! I have to trade him 45K in bugs for that coin....looks mint state/FDC. Also have proxy bid on a flawless denarius in upcoming auction.
     
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