Superb Tertartemorion from Kolophon (6th Cent. BCE)

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  1. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Lawyers have consciences, but they work a little different than the general public. Most people feel genuine care and feelings for others. Us lawyers too, except we require a certain drug called "money" to bring those feelings out.The more money you have, the more we empathize with you and the more we care.
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Now that is funny!!! (and maybe a little honesty to boot).
     
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL, all of my lawyers told me that the Line of the Law is a ROPE. It just depends WHERE the rope is placed on the ground that determines on which side of the rope (and how elastic the rope can be...) that your case is...
     
  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Most of the large coins we have circulated little but were hoarded or transferred in pots full for large transactions. Most people didn't put away thousands of fractional silvers in a nice protective pot so most of what we have were probably 'field finds' or things lost in the market place (we won't touch topic of the ones that were swallowed and where they went). I suspect the larger groups that were found together were more likely to be a merchant's cash register than a life savings hoard. No, I can't prove that.

    In my time in the hobby, I recall seeing exactly one really worn dekadrachm and it always bothered me a little just how that coin got that way. I suspect it was a pocket piece of a gentleman sometime a couple hundred years ago. More of them are EF, The same goes for Athenian owl tetradrachms. I once say a dealer with a large bag of nice ones all about the same date marked 'Your Choice, $500' but I can't recall seeing a similar group of hemiobols. Individual field finds that spent 2000 years in the dirt have every right to be a bit rough.
     
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  6. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    What a coincidence, I just put my own little Kolophon tetartemorion in that other minicoin thread today. I bought it 35 years ago from a Swiss business (that still exists), one of the few coins that I kept through the years.
    One of few ancient coins bearing the name of its denomination: TE(tartemorion)! 7 mm, 0.24 gr.

    Colophon.jpg
     
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  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Great accident, and a much cooler coin than that old Miletos lion. I'd certainly be happy with it.
     
  8. HAB Peace 28 2.0

    HAB Peace 28 2.0 The spiders are as big as the door

    I know a decent bit about ancient history, but I've never heard of Ionia Klonopin or whatever lol.
     
  9. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Ionia is a region of central Anatolia. See the regions of Anatolia here for your personal future reference:

    Map_Anatolia_ancient_regions-en.svg.png

    The city states of Ionia banded together in the 7th Century BCE to create a military alliance known as the Ionian League (sometimes also referred to as the Panionic League).

    Of the 12 city-states that made up the League, Kolophon was the strongest. The league also held a sporting festival known as the Panionia.

    Kolophon was destroyed in the 3rd century BCE and a nearby port area around which a new town grew was renamed Kolophon...so fun fact, the Kolophon of Roman times is not the same Kolophon of Greek times.

    ***Remember that the Greek world back then was more than just modern Greece. Their city-states were all over the Mediterranean, including large parts of modern day Turkey, North Africa, Southern Italy, and the French and Spanish coasts.
     
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  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Minor correction to the attribution, Sallent. The dates usually given for these is circa 500-450 BCE, so 5th century, not 6th.
     
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  11. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Here are "10" of my random mini-bites ...

    ISLANDS off THRACE, Thasos
    AR Sixteenth Stater – Hemiobol

    Circa 500-480 BC
    Diameter: 8 mm
    Weight: 0.56 grams
    Obverse: Two dolphins swimming in opposite directions; pellets around
    Reverse: Quadripartite incuse square

    Islands Off Thrace Thasos Hemiobol.jpg



    IONIA, Ephesos, AR Tetartemorion
    Circa 500-420 BC
    Diameter: 5 x 8 mm
    Weight: 0.17 grams
    Obverse: Bee
    Reverse: Head of eagle right within incuse square

    Ionia Ephesos Tetartemorion.jpg


    TROAS, Kebren, AR Diobol
    5th century BC
    Diameter: 8 mm
    Weight: 1.16 grams
    Obverse: Archaic head (of Apollo?) left
    Reverse: Head of ram left within incuse square

    Troas Kebren Diobol.jpg


    TROAS, Kebren, AR Obol
    5th century BC
    Diameter: 7 mm
    Weight: 0.61 grams
    Obverse: Archaic head (of Apollo?) left
    Reverse: Head of ram left within incuse square

    Troas Kebren Obol.jpg


    CARIA, Idyma. AR Hemiobol
    5th century BC
    Diameter: 8 mm
    Weight: 0.44 grams
    Obverse: Land tortoise with segmented shell
    Reverse: Leaf, pellet

    Caria Idyma Tortoise.jpg



    IONIA, Erythrai. AR Hemiobol
    Circa 480-450 BC
    Diameter: 6 mm
    Weight: 0.29 grams
    Obverse: Rosette
    Reverse: Simpler rosette within incuse square

    Ionia Erythrai.jpg



    PHOENICIA, Tyre. Uncertain king.
    AR Twenty-fourth Shekel

    Circa 393-311/0 BC
    Diameter: 7 mm
    Weight: 0.46 grams
    Obverse: Dolphin leaping right
    Reverse: Owl standing right, head facing; crook and flail in background

    Phoenicia Tyre Dolphin & Owl Shekel.jpg



    SATRAPS of CARIA, Pixodaros, AR Trihemiobol
    Circa 341/0-336/5 BC
    Halikarnassos mint
    Diameter: 9.5 mm
    Weight: 0.82 grams
    Obverse: Laureate head of Apollo facing slightly right, drapery around neck
    Reverse: Starlike floral pattern

    Satraps of caria Pixodaros.jpg



    MACEDON, Eion, AR Obol? (Tritartemorion?)
    Circa 460-400 BC
    Diameter: 10 mm
    Weight: 0.37 grams
    Obverse: Two geese standing right; ivy leaf and H to left
    Reverse: Quadripartite incuse square

    Macedon Eion Double Geese.jpg


    MACEDON, Mende. AR Tritartemorion
    Circa 460-423 BC
    Diameter: 10 mm
    Weight: 0.62 grams
    Obverse: Ass standing right
    Reverse: Crow standing left within incuse square

    Macedon Mende on Deck.jpg


    Oh, and again => congrats on your sweet lil' OP-addition (it is very cool)

    :rolleyes:
     
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  12. HAB Peace 28 2.0

    HAB Peace 28 2.0 The spiders are as big as the door

    Thank you. That was really good. I learned something new today. No matter how much you know. You can always learn more.
     
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  13. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    that's a great looking apollo...kind of haunting, but awesome. nice little coin sallent.
     
  14. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Maybe the ones with the side profile of Apollo, which were minted at a later date, but the ones with the front portrait of Apollo are from around 525 BCE-490 BCE. Every attribution I found puts them around those dates. The ones with the side profile date from around 490 BCE through 450 BCE
     
  15. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Very good thing you didn't. It probably would have taken me weeks to go back home and retrieve it, and I would have been very confused when I found it in my mail pile.
     
  16. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Okay. I haven't checked any actual reference books and was just going by what CNG's catalogers showed for all their front-facing examples.
     
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  17. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Here it is... nicely toned.

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    And it really isn't that small. I thought 7mm would feel smaller.

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    In fact, It's so big that after leaving it out on my desk and forgetting to put it back in its holder, it only took me a mere 15 minutes to find it under all the paperwork on my desk (my office desk is dark, so the coin blends in). I must have lost 10 pounds in sweat during the panic trying to find it. I was almost ready to pull my hair out.
     
  18. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Many of us recognize your feelings...
     
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