Dazed and cornfused! A PCGS grading tale

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Barney McRae, Oct 22, 2025.

  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Hey Barney, I like it, the coin is clearly PL. Scrapes can be dismissed when it is in field, sometimes on the devices, just not very common.
    The coin deserves more credit than they gave it.
     
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  3. ddddd

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    I'm also thinking it is this area that I highlighted below. While it might pass by some graders, I think more often than not it would get a details grade.

    They also could have net-graded it as a 62 pl or dmpl as I have seen some near details coins get the benefit of a straight grade (albeit lower than one would originally think from a quick glance).

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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    That 86' looks like it should have gotten gem.
     
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  5. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    I thought 65, so we're on the same page? They graded it 66. I don't have a photo of their 64, they screwed up my order, I double checked after I posted originally. Here is the seller's photo of the 64. Their photo really doesn't capture the luster in hand.




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  6. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    I agree, that is pretty heavy and uniform across that whole area. It's a shame. My third party, unaffected opinion is, I wouldn't risk sending it back in. It's still nice and should command a premium as is but I think it will always be a bargain PL for someone. There's a reason it's made it this long not already in a slab. Who knows how many times it's been submitted. Those look like deeper gouges and not just luster breaks and light marks.
     
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  7. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    Okay, I'm not done byatching.:muted: Please allow into evidence, another graded exhibit.:muted: DMPL.png
     
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  8. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    MS-61 DMPL doesn't seen too unreasonable to me. Personally I would call it MS-62 DMPL.
     
  9. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    Yet it looks like Mike Tyson in his prime took brass knuckles to the cheek and nose. Yet still, it didn't get UNC details. It got a straight grade AND a DMPL designation. I think you are missing my point.
     
  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

  11. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    You made me go back and find it. It's kind of dog eared as well. :D It's not perfect, not horrible. But it didn't get a details is the point.


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  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Looks good to me if the mirrors are there.
     
  13. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    I'm not complaining about the designation. I'm complaining how something so beat up and scarred still gets a designation, but mine does not. I'm a dog with a bone and I'm not turning it loose. :D
     
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  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    It is only the directional lines on the first one. The last one looks like another coin smashed into it but not abused if you know what I mean.
     
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  15. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    What made the scratch or other damage is important to determine a details grade coin from a lower grade coin.
     
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