Double Guess the Grade (toned 1901-O Morgan)

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ddddd, Oct 25, 2025 at 12:27 AM.

  1. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Why double guess the grade? Well I found out this same coin was graded by both NGC and PCGS.
    So please guess what each grading company gave the coin.
    Photos below are a PCGS TrueView and a GC GreatPhoto.



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  3. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    PCGS MS62
    NGC MS63
     
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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I am thinking 64 and 63
     
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  5. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Is that PCGS 64 or PCGS 63?
     
  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    1 and 2, PCGS 64.
     
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  7. ksmooter61

    ksmooter61 Scary ghost - BOO!

    No idea on the TPGs - AU58
     
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  8. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    +1
     
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  9. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    I'm not one to ask. :rolleyes: But it looks 63 to me, but one TPG might have given it a 64 for it's beautiful toning. You know what would happen with my luck? MS details, questionable color. :(
     
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  10. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    I'll go 63 pcgs and 64 for ngc
     
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  11. Dimedude2

    Dimedude2 Member

    65 pcgs and 64 ngc
     
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  12. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Both gave it a 64.
     
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  13. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    And the reveal....it was an NGC MS 62 and became a PCGS MS 64. I'm ok with the 64 grade while the 62 seem a tad low; maybe one can split the difference and say 63 wouldn't be unreasonable. I was not the one who sent it in either time. Interestingly enough it sold for more in the NGC 62 holder than the PCGS 64 holder (although there was an in between sale in that same PCGS 64 holder that was higher than the NGC 62 sale).

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  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Have you seen the coin in hand? With a 62 On the NGC slab, it draws red flags, the coin is most likely AU.
     
  15. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Yes I have it in hand. I don't think it's AU; it looks unc to me.
     
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  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I would be questioning the toning. It looks artificial to me.
     
  17. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    well I wonked out on that one lol
     
  18. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    It's market acceptable and both of the top grading companies had no issue with it.
     
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  19. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    What do you mean? It's the Purple mountains man! :p
     
  20. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    I think it's color is fine. ANACS sent me back a 1884 O, MS60, questionable color. (it's grade is much higher, details grade all MS are capped at 60) :muted: I will eventually resubmit to PCGS. (after cracking out) :rolleyes:

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  21. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I think everybody probably thought at first glance that the coin was AU, but once we saw the mintmark and the lack of friction in the fields, we were forced to conclude it is a mint state coin.

    I don't see anything that would make me question the toning on this coin. The color progression is correct, the color scheme is commonly found on Morgan Dollars, and it only has one sided toning which is common for bag toning. Even the elevation chromatics look solid.

    I think we are just so used to seeing common date Morgans with rainbow bag toning and blazing luster that we forget what low grade toners lacking luster look like. In other words, they look like this.
     
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