Let's remove some verdigris, shall we?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by SuperDave, Feb 8, 2017.

  1. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Here's the candidate, freed from an ICCS MS62 Lustrous Brown flip:

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    As you can see, the reverse is spotted with nasties, but on close inspection I believe we can ameliorate and hopefully completely excise them. We will be employing both acetone - on the off chance there is PVC plasticizer involvement - as well as Verdi-Care. I will be documenting the process in subsequent posts to this thread. Below are some detail images of the most-affected areas, as "before" pics. If you'd like greater magnification, we can bring it to bear in abundance. :)

    It's a lovely coin, and very much worth the best effort to conserve.

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  3. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Can't wait to see how this one turns out!
     
  4. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Tag me when you get your final results please. Thanks.
     
  5. Oldrdawg

    Oldrdawg Active Member

    Fantastic piece. I'll be thrilled to see the end result.
     
  6. PennyGuy

    PennyGuy US and CDN Copper

    At first look I think that coin is a good candidate for Verdi-Care, and well worth the effort.
     
  7. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I'm certainly hoping so. The verdigris was represented in the listing imagery, but aside the flip (I've learned to perk my ears up hard when seeing ICCS "Lustrous Brown" flips. :) ), the luster was not and it's tremendous.

    Consider it done.
     
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  8. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Fun thread.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Awww geeeez ! C'mon now, why don't ya just tell 'em you're gonna clean the coin and be done with it ??? Have you been listening to Thad again ? :D
     
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  10. mlov43

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    Screen Shot 2016-07-29 at 6.11.50 PM.png ...let's get on with it.
     
  11. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Yes, he makes some of the best-tasting Kool-Aid out there. :D
     
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  12. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    Good thread. It will be interesting to follow the stages of treatment.
     
  13. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    It'll take a few days for the Verdi-Care to get here; in the meantime, I'm ensuring that acetone and xylene won't do the trick all by their lonesomes. :)
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Kindly show pictures of it once you do - for each !
     
  15. PennyGuy

    PennyGuy US and CDN Copper

    Verdi-Care can work wonders under the right circumstances. This medal was almost terminal when I started. The medal is bronze and quite large at 76mm. Overall I'm satisfied with the end result considering what I started with.

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  16. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Of course. For something like this, the first acetone soak is 24 straight hours untouched, to ensure any possible chance for it to "soak in" to the stuff on the coin happens. I'm particularly interested in the thinner spot above the N in ONE; if a simple acetone soak disappears that, it's an indicator that there's a decent chance it's PVC plasticizer at work and we may be able to get most of the way with acetone alone.
     
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  17. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    I wanna' see, I wanna' see, I wanna' see, I wanna' see

    Probably @BadThad will too.
     
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  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'll grant ya Dave I wondered about a spot or two myself but I'm thinking most of it is verdigris. And if it is, acetone or xylene may remove what is loose and leave the rest. But then distilled water would do the same.
     
  19. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Somebody's gonna want to slap me for saying this, but....

    As a generality, acetone will make PVC plasticizer byproduct soft and gooey, but even if it breaks verdigris loose, that'll always remain grainy and gritty. I intend to do something involving fingernails to make this determination, if it's possible....

    I tend to grow my fingernails long, they're due for cutting, and I'm going to Dremel one to a point. :)
     
  20. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    I wouldn't handle either chemical with bare skin. Just sayin.
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Nahhhhh - you can literally take a bath in acetone, and yes I have.
     
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