Finally found an ex Col. Green/E. Newman coin

Given the unusual color on the reverse, I would look for another coin that has a more consistent brown color. In my book, the pedigree, especially at this grade level, is insignificant.

 

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For the most part yes. AU/MS are where there is more debate a lot of the time in grades, obviously no one is gonna think a VG could go VF but thinking a 62 going 63/64 is quite common. The other thing is that is usually the levels where the big price jumps happen. The biggest motivator of crackouts is where the next grade up is a big value jump.

It is though not unheard of especially if the 45 was from a lesser company.

 

Something you have to remember is the a very large percentage of the Randall hoard were 1820's (the reason why 1820 is the most common MS large cent) and most of those were 1820 N-13's, a large date variety. I believe the other 1820 Randall hoard varieties were also large date varieties. So that skews the apparent abundance of higher grade coins that are worthy of slabbing toward the large date group.

And PCGS's idea that there are only 2,000 surviving 1820 large cents is silly . There are probably more N-13's than that and there are about that many of the N-1 overdates as well. If they mean problem free pieces that would be slabable that I would believe.

 

My bad on that one - the 2000 survival rate - turns out that the estimate of surviving small date 1820's. Their estimate for large date survivors is 10,000. 5 to 1 (large date vs small date) seems realistic based on all the other stats I could find.

 

A couple years back I saw the Colonel Green inventory book (bid/buy book) in the auction lot viewing which he kept via Kolbe & Fanning auction and there was an entry for the 1913 Nickel.

JPL

 

Update - in hand the 1820 penny in the OP is much darker than any pictures I had of it. It's actually very pleasing. The slight deterioration on the reverse is nearly impossible to see with the naked eye. This is good. The pictures on the web were more than honest. I like it!