$1 2013 Fake Error

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  1. nm1560

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  3. -Andy-

    -Andy- Andrew B. -Andy- YN

    if anyone here has a Ebay account, which I don't, please report it as soon as possible!
     
  4. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    If I may ask, what do you think is fake about this bill? I have seen others like it before. Notes are printed in stages and it's possible that this and the whole sheet was out of registration when printed. And with billions of notes being produced it's also possible this was missed in the process by quality control. I'll wait for the others to chime in but please, do not be so quick to report items w/o a little further information. It would be a shame if you jumped the gun and it is the real deal. Check out some of the fantastic errors sold by Executive Currency and see all the possibilities. ;););)
     
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  6. abuckmaster147

    abuckmaster147 Well-Known Member

    I was just ready to ask why myself when you posted.:)
     
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  7. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    I vote fake.

    I'm certain that the Fed Seal and Dist Seal have predetermined spacing relative to one another and have yet to see this type of error that is legit. Furthermore, the area it should have been looks suspect.
     
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  8. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Fake. Although it isn't a great pic, look at the area where the L should be. Lots of marks and wrinkling. It looks like the original L was erased. I also think SteveInTampa is right. I don't know how the L can be off center and all of the other printing is correct. This could only happen if the L was printed by itself in a separate step.
     
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  9. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    One small point - the LH serial number is weakly-printed compared to the RH number.
     
  10. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    It's a total fake. I received one like it 10 years ago from a bank. I still have it. Someone simply erased the FRB district symbol on the left (and did a pretty poor job of it) and then put it through a printer. The seller does not appear to deal with currency too much so they likely don't realize it's not a genuine error. As far as reporting it, I personally would not waste my time but would instead opt to send the seller a kind message explaining it is a fake error and is really more of a novelty.

    This site lists some examples of what genuine errors look like: http://papermoneyguide.com/currency_errors.html. Take note of the $1 1974 A-B error that's shown.
     
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  11. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    The two seals are printed by different machines. That is not the tell on this type.

    The Fed seal and the FRB numbers (12) are printed by the same machine at the same time. If the seal is out of alignment the numbers have to be also.
     
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  12. sam_raph

    sam_raph Active Member

    I reported it
     
  13. nm1560

    nm1560 Member

    Precisely. District numbers would of been offset to. Also if you zoom in closely you can tell seal is from off the shelf printer. Maybe seller found it like this and does not know or perhaps got duped as well.
     
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  14. ashyblue

    ashyblue Member

    It is fake , I'm into the bills ( mostly serials , but also like real error ones ) and I can tell you , after the fake miscuts so called errors that fakers make , the district seal move error is the second most faked one. You can even search that on youtube and see how the fakers do it. Beaware it's totally fake. If a seal is misprint , it should be with the respective all second and third print , so in this case if this was a real error , then the district number as as well as signatures( signatures on some years ) should have dramatically moved too !!!

    Here is an example of real second and third print shift , I can tell you this is genuine , as all the serial numbers along with the green seal , and the district number along with district seal have moved. In the first year of current size print of one dollar bill ( 1963 , + 1963 A , 1963 B ) I have seen signatures to be part of printing too , and as the result signature would been displaced as well ( that's why Series of 1963 shift error 1 dollar bills are so hot ) , but in most cases signature would not be shifted.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/381922859941
     
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  15. notehunter494

    notehunter494 Member

    It takes 6 seconds to report it. Report It. I did.
     
  16. CoinG1901

    CoinG1901 Member

    I do not see a need to report it. I would personally prefer to question the seller's authenticity and knowledge of the hobby.
     
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