Modern $1 coins just plain suck

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by clembo, Jul 31, 2007.

  1. Anergetic

    Anergetic New Member

    Actually, you can empty multiple rolls of coins in each coin pocket if you are in for the long haul. They can hold a lot of coins. Just make sure you don't do that too late in the day, because the person who has to count the register is going to be ****ed. Some people set extra rolls in the corresponding pocket on top the loose change, but I always found that to be a distraction. It works for some people. You can also put extra rolls in the $50/$100 bill pocket if you really want, but you may have to remove the spring loaded clip. But, just like with the bills, it's good practice to notify someone you need change before you run out. You can usually tell you're gonna need change well in advance.
     
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  3. andrew289

    andrew289 Senior Analyst

    I love it. You have an excuse for everything. I thought I had heard it all from my nephew but you put him to shame....lol. If a cashier can't manage his/her drawer then they shouldn't be handling money. I know most aren't the brightest in the world but come on ....it's not rocket science. Pack out your coins and when you see that you are starting to run low, a little light bulb should go on saying ...hmmm...I think I need more (insert dimes, nickels, quarters). If you fill your slot BEFORE the predicatable lunch/dinner rush then you won't have a problem. If customers have to wait in line when an incompetant cashier is not doing his/her job ...oh well. We all have to wait sometimes. More often it's waiting for the check writer three people in front of you to dig out his/her drivers license than for a poor kid who suddenly runs out of nickels.
     
  4. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Or if we get rid of the dollar bill you pay for the $1 item with a $5 and get back 2 $2 bills. Now what was the problem again?

    Back when I first started working our cash register, an old one, had six slots. When we changed registers it had five slots. I have seen some that have only four slots. Can someone tell me how many slots are actually in a standard cash drawer?

    Another comment for the people using cash registers. Very few people really use $50's and $100's, so do you really need to keep the 20's in the tray? I know of some places that put them under the tray as well. And many business don't let 20's accumulate in the register anyway.

    If the standard register has five slots and we get rid of the cent and dollar note you have for coins Nickels, dimes quarters, dollars and an empty slot. For bills you have twos, fives, tens, twenties and larger go underneath and you have two empty slots. If you want to keep the twenties on top you still have one empty slot

    If you have four slots, your change slots are full, put the twenties underneath and you have the fourth slot for rolls.

    Another comment on my discussion earlier about the circulation of the dollar coin. I would imagine the silver dollar probably did circulate during the 1840 - 48 period. My reasoning, If you paid for a $1 purchase with a half eagle what would you get back in change? You could get four $1 bills, but since there was no federal paper at the time these notes would be from private banks all over the country and would be of uncertain value. They might be worth 90 cent, 80 cents, 60 cents or even not worth the paper they are printed on because the bank may have gone under or never even have existed in the first place. And each note can be worth a different amount. Or you can demand four silver dollars that are backed by the government and are worth a dollar. Which would you chose? The merchant is going to try to get you to take the paper because he wants to keep his dollar coins but my bet is there were a lot of people ASKING for dollar coins.
     
  5. Anergetic

    Anergetic New Member

    Standard cash register drawers have 5 slots for coins, 5 slots for bills. You definitely need to have a slot for 20's. Many people pay with 20's.
     
  6. Topher

    Topher New Member

    What bunch of whiners.

    In Canada, we have absolutely no trouble carrying Loonies and Toonies around, our cash drawers don't need to be retrofitted, as you just put the one dollar coins where the one dollar bills were. There are sections in the back of the drawer to hold the extra rolls until you need them, etc. etc. You guys are so used to the way things are with a $1 bill and no $1 coin that you can't possibly see how little it really changes things. Nobody in Canada complains, or cares. It's not like your world is turning upside down because there is a $1 coin. Personally, it's far overdue.

    The problem is not having a $1 coin, it's with how little the $1 coin will buy. If you could buy a newspaper for a nickel, wouldn't that be great? Feed a family with a $1 coin. Once upon a time, that used to happen. Now all of the coins are virtually worthless in comparison to the same denomination two or three generations ago.
     
  7. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Here is a point I haven't seen brought up yet. When your in a hurry at the register getting ones out, how many times do dollar coins stick together.:D
    I often see people cussing new bills that stick together.
     
  8. Dumanyu

    Dumanyu World Coin Collector

    You tell'em Topher,
    Finally, a voice of reason...get rid of dollar bills, and everything will work itself out.
     
  9. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Thanks for the insult. It means so much from someone who has obviously NEVER run a register in a high volume business.
    Truth be told most people that have never actually worked a cash register in a high volume setting COULDN'T. Believe me. I used to run a truck stop, did all the paperwork and was required to run a register as well. Pumping well over $10K through your register in an 8 hour shift was NOT uncommon and this was BEFORE diesel (and gas) went to $3 a gallon. Three registers were going and ALL did that volume.

    In addition you had to know how to process about 9 or 10 types of fuel cards and even print Comchecks for drivers.
    This was not McDonalds where - hey it's lunch get ready. It went on for hours and you had to get your own change from a smart safe.
    Well, it's not too smart having a few hundred dollars worth of coin just laying "wherever". Dollar coins really did hamper the process on the rare occasion that they came in but you'll never understand that.

    Everyone was reponsible for his/her money and losing it gets people fired. I know - I fired a few in my time over this.

    So see - it's NOT all like working at a burger joint. You might excel there ( a burger joint) with your infinite knowledge. On the other hand with your "even a caveman can do it" mentality I'd probably fire you after your first shift. IF you lasted that long.
     
  10. peterplanchet

    peterplanchet New Member

    I still haven't seen a presidential dollar coin in circulation. It's odd that a dollar today is only worth what a dime was worth in the early 1900's. No one complaiend about the dime coin then.

    --Peter Planchet
     
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Sure they pay with $20's, but how often do you have to give them back out in change? Seldom. So you don't need a slot for them, you put them underneath like you do the 50's and 100's that don't go back out in change. You do have to have a slot for 10's, because like you say you do get a fair numberof 20's that you have to make change for.

    Clembo, in that case you could be right, but most people working registers do NOT have to handle that much through their drawer or that pace.
     
  12. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Thanks Conder 101 for at least reading that part and I realize most people don't handle that volume. I know I don't anymore - can get real hairy fast.

    We also dealt with a lot of 50s and 100s. That sucked as a currency collector for me as I had to pass up A LOT of stuff. Just couldn't afford it.

    Hey, I just started this thread because I DON'T like dollar coins and probably never will. Except for real ones like Bust, Seated, Trade, Morgan and Peace.

    I'll hold to it as well and actually DO appreciate the comments made even if someone does not agree with me.


    If nothing else we had something to "talk" about.

    clembo
     
  13. SapperNurse

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  14. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    No problem but I think I listed them less gold (meant for circulation) and Gobrecht.

    The Ikes and later are garbage to me and apparently many others. Difference between the "real" silver dollars and the "new" dollars is that the U.S. mint turns out BILLIONS that don't get used.

    Have a few become collectable - yes. Willing to bet in 100 years they won't be that much more collectable.

    Most of the "real" silver dollars have passed that test even if they weren't well received. Of course mintages were a lot lower and they did actually circulate.
     
  15. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    It's my belief that the IKE profile is the best protrait on any US coin, especially in proof. I'll post a few new ones I got this week that are graded PF69's. But the Eisenhower protrait on the Ike Dollar coin is mind blowing.

    Ruben
     
  16. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    Tell them the truth....
    It was a CatHouse !
    You need Bone's South Dakota Pimp Cane.
    :D
     
  17. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Truth be told Roto it was in a rough neighborhood. Behind glass with armed security at night.
    Constantly running hookers (lot lizards) and drug dealers off the lot.

    Before anyone says it you still HAD to watch your money. The company bookeeper was tied up in the office and forced to empty out a safe. Had a big gun held to her head.

    Really miss that zoo.
     
  18. Anergetic

    Anergetic New Member

    You'd be lifting the drawer way too frequently. It wouldn't even lay flat after a while. People do pay with 50's and 100's too, and then you'd have to lift the drawer to make change.
     
  19. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    As a conversion to the metric system is here as well. Personally I wouldn't hold my breath on either.
     
  20. Topher

    Topher New Member

    I would agree. Too much resistance to change.
     
  21. LibertyBell

    LibertyBell New Member

    Faulty logic spend a bill and a coin and get nothing, spend two coins and get nothing

    or....

    Spend two bill, get three coins, or spend two coins (1$ each) and get three coins.

    You have to compare apples to apples.
     
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