Any idea whats up with this graded cent?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by 16ga, Sep 4, 2025 at 6:58 PM.

  1. 16ga

    16ga Member

    Just got this PCGS graded pf69 coin and there's something strange going on.
    the slab itself has some scratches but the lines on the cheek, chin and hair seem to be on the coin itself.
    Any idea what it is? Some kind of die damage? Did the grader scratch it and
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    What are your opinions on this one?
     
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  3. The Half Dime

    The Half Dime Arrows!

    Looks to be a die clash that was unattributed on the holder. It wouldn't be die damage since the marks are raised.
     
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  4. Spark1951

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  6. ksmooter61

    ksmooter61 Not in Kansas anymore

    Clashes only occur in the fields.
     
  7. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Most of the time maybe, but not "only." Here's an 1892 dime with the O in One Dime clashed below the ear. I can also show my 1946 Canada dollar with George VI's ear clashed on the reverse island. I don't know whats going on with OP coin but it looks like PMD to me.
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  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Difficult to tell in the slab but is it possible it’s va lamination error?
     
  9. ksmooter61

    ksmooter61 Not in Kansas anymore

    Thanks for the education @KBBPLL, still learning. That is a cool clash, and I never look for them other than in the fields.
     
  10. 16ga

    16ga Member

    If it is how common is it for PCGS to let something like this slip?


    Looking though the slab I cant really tell if the lines are inset or raised. They seem to go in the same direction and disappear at lower spots on the coin.
    If it wasn't for the fact that its in a PF69 holder I'd assume scratches.
     
  11. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    Shallow areas of a design will show clashing since the depth on the die is similar to the field surface.

    For instance, Roosevelt dimes will show clashing in the area in front of the eye because the depth is similar to the field.
     
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  12. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Hard to say how common, but keep in mind it's a grading factory. They don't spend a ton of time obsessing over a single coin. Your first and second images don't show much of anything, so maybe it's a light rub that only catches the light at a certain angle?
     
  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It depends on how serious is the clash (the impression it left), the design of the coin on both sides and the relief on the sides of the clash. This is one of mine on a $1.00 Gold Dollar dated 1855. The clash is almost 100% and it covers high and low spots. I just took lousy photos in my excitement.
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  14. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    I can't really tell from the OP's pictures if the coin is damaged or if it is from the mint that way, but it seems possible to me that either (1) a damaged coin has been moved to a better holder or (2) that the graded coin was damaged while being handled and inserted into the holder by PCGS.
     
  15. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The “fangs” on the 1955 “Bugs Bunny” Franklin Half Dollar are due to clashing. They are from the wing detail on the eagle.
     
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  16. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Thanks for that explanation John. To this day I can't explain the difference between a die clash, door dash, or lost cash......
     
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