ANACS grading question

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Barney McRae, Aug 26, 2025.

  1. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    My 12 coins I submitted over 2 months ago still haven't come back. Next week will be 90 days since submission at a coin show. I logged in and checked status. It says "consultant status". ANACS is closed for the day so I googled what that means. From what I read it's either a VAM that is being researched or another coin that the rep told me was struck through wood. Who do they consult with? I dont know which coin is in question, I will call tomorrow. Anyone else run into this?
     
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  3. Chris B

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    ANACS communication is among the best. I'm kind of surprised you haven't heard from them. I would definitely be on the phone to them.
     
  4. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Seems like whatever "consultant" may have been busy with ANA? You didn't say what you specified on the submission - conservation? attribution? imaging? etc. I also found their communication to be excellent, but that was a few years ago now. A higher-up actually called me to discuss the pros and cons of conserving a specific coin before they did it. This delayed getting them back by I think close to a month but it was well worth it. Call them and see what the story is.

    At least you weren't submitting a 1652 New England threepence to PCGS! That one took literally four years to authenticate and grade. :)
     
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  5. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    :eek:
     
  6. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    I just called customer service. They sent my entire submission to a John Barber for consultation? Lucky me has a difficult case? :rolleyes:Maybe some of you recognize that name.

    They keep the entire submission together so it doesn't get lost in the cracks. The customer service rep said there are no notes as to where the hangup is. I had two VAMS and a struck through coin. The strike through should be a no brainer. He said Barber was backed up and it could be several more weeks in process.:rolleyes:
     
  7. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    All I can think of is John Frost with the Barber Coin Collectors Society and you munged the names together, but if you didn't submit a Barber or Seated Liberty coin it's probably not him.
     
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  8. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I have never had a bad experience with ANACS. I will always choose them over the so called top 2. My second choice is ICG. There you have it, my top 2.
     
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  9. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    I don't hate ANACS. They've graded about 80 Morgans for me. They sure as hell are way conservative though. It matters little with common dates but eventually I'm going to cross the rarer ones to PCGS. I expect a few will get upgrades as well.
     
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  10. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    Well, just got got notification Morgan coins are being shipped. I peeked at the grades. I'm still not sure what the consultant was needed for, but there are two possibilities. One was a 1879S, it graded out MS63, struck through wood. Even I knew it was struck through. The other possibility was a 1884O, a beautifully toned coin without many flaws. They came back with a MS60, artificially toned.:rolleyes: I did not do that, even though I know how. Funny, I intentionally sent them another coin that I purposely toned to see how they graded it, and it came back straight graded.:p The 1884O was practically flawless, but ANACS assigns MS60 to all UNC coins with problems.:muted:
     
  11. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Got any pics?
     
  12. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    Here's the seller's pics of the toned 1884O. Some of you are probably sick of seeing it, posted it twice already on other threads. (toned coins, new acquistions)
    Terry Morrisey, the ANACS coin show rep told me it looked like natural toning. It's not some bizzarro stuff like PCI loves to cook up.



    1884O obv.png 1884 O rev.png :D
     
  13. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Got any pics of the other coin you AT'd?
     
  14. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    No photos (yet), they haven't been delivered yet. Colorwise it passed, but got polish details.:D I knew it beforehand, that's why I "cooked it". I wanted test two things.....if it would pass the color test and if it would hide the old cleaning (it sat in a vault for 50 years). I guess batting .500 isn't terrible.:p
     
  15. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Hmm, I'm not so sure that it passed the AT test then. I'm not sure if a TPG lists everything if it's Details, just the worst offender. Somebody more knowledgeable will have to weigh in on that. "Details - Polished Cleaned Artificial Toning" is a lot to fit on a label.
     
  16. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Not a big ANACS fan because it reminds me of the late night coin shows, everything is graded by ANACS has a cheaper feel, its always been PCGS best resale value out of all TPG,S.
     
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  17. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    ANACS, in my 80 coin grading experience with them, is a tougher, purely technical grader than any of the rest of them. Eye appeal seems to mean little to them. They've graded exactly ONE coin of mine MS65. I'm not sure I've seen an ANACS coin in a 65 holder for sale unless it's the old soapbox holder which carries a premium on it's own. I have a strong inclination to see if it will crossover at a higher grade at PCGS. The 65 of course, not the toned coin.
     
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  18. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Such a curious comment. How can a coin have a "cheaper feel" just because of whose plastic it's in? i.e. are you buying coins or plastic?
     
  19. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    it shouldn't but it does the TPG matters, case in point, go on ebay and see how many ANACS or ICG coins are for sale in comparison to PCGS and NGC not even close.
     
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  20. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    Speaking of cheaper plastic......... I will buy ICG if the coin inside seems nicer than the grade. The market tends to discount them, even if that's pure snobbery. The one thing I do not like is that ICG has a rough plastic tab at the bottom of the slab and feels scratchy when you handle it.
     
  21. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I think the difference in perspectives is being in it to make money versus being in it to collect coins. Otherwise how does one come up with the notion that a particular TPG plastic gives a coin a "cheaper feel"? It's the same exact coin regardless.
     
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