Crack out game carousel

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Barney McRae, Sep 3, 2025 at 7:30 PM.

  1. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    :D

    Last year ANACS graded a submission of 50 Morgans for me. One of them was a nice 1899P with a rim cud VAM. It came back AU58. I was baffled, I saw no wear at all and it had good but not great luster. Fast forward to Jan 2025, I sent that same coin to PCGS after cracking out and it came back AU58 cleaned. What? I still was not satisfied, so back in May I cracked it out again and resubmitted to ANACS. I just got the grades, now it's a MS61 VAM6A straight grade. :p

    Persistance and stubbornness is effective every now and then, even when it makes zero financial sense.:rolleyes:
     
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  3. ddddd

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    Some coins one just has to give up one because the dollar spread in grades is not worth the resubmission fees. However, I also understand the stubbornness aspect. I sent a Franklin in 4 times (nice toning). It was Anacs AU 55 -> NGC MS 62 -> PCGS Unc Details Damage -> NGC MS 62 ....after the 4th try I finally was able to convince myself to stop sending it in. I eventually sold it for a decent toning premium. Below is the photo when it was PCGS details.

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  4. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    With regards to my original post, I'm done here with this particular coin crackout game. It's crazy isnt it? I need to figure out how to avoid a grader from grading my stuff right after a weekend bender.:D
     
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  5. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Sometimes these motivations aren't strictly financial. My profile image was my only crack-out game (not sure how much of a game though since I've only done it once so far). Canada 1947 $1 Maple Leaf, Curved Right 7 variety, originally PCGS SP UNC Details - Cleaned, Cook Collection. Submitted in holder to ANACS along with the rest of grandpa's best Canadian and a handful of my purchases, one or two in ICCS holders. My motivations - it ain't cleaned, that's die polish; get the stink of the Cook Collection off of it; get it out of a PCGS holder (personal reasons); and put grandpa's name on all of them (hey, it's my name too). After conservation (lacquer removed) it came back SP62.

    My personal vendetta with this coin I feel was finally vindicated six years later with the recent Stack's sale of the same coin, where I finally had images of the exact same crisscrossing die polish that PCGS had mistaken for cleaning. Sure, it's also worth a lot more with a straight grade but that doesn't matter much to me.
     
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  6. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    No way to avoid those graders! :D
     
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  7. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    WENDSAYS is your best shot in the week :p
     
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  8. samclemens3991

    samclemens3991 Well-Known Member

    I tend to leave coins alone and let the coin speak for itself unless it something quite extrodinary such as a missed mintmark, miss identified variety etc. But then I play in the shallow end of the pool. james
     
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