Anyone know how to get in touch with this company? I want to contact them about a counterfeit 1972/72 1C. I think I read that they moved to FL two years ago. I cannot find contact info on the Internet. If they are no longer in business, I'll post photos of the fake but it should not fool most of you.
@Insider I wouldn't be at all surprised if the owner moved to Florida! Back in the 90's, I remember a man from New Jersey who slowly embezzled all of the assets of his business and used the ill-gotten gains to buy a multi-million dollar thoroughbred farm in North Florida. Once he made the farm his principal residence, he filed personal bankruptcy to escape the huge debts owed in New Jersey. According to Florida law (at that time) his principal residence could not be touched to pay for the debts of the bankruptcy. Maybe this law is still in effect. Chris
Bob Haire owner of MMNS, did move his business to Florida. The company was renamed MNS (Masters Numismatic Service). A few years later he closed it down. I have no information on how to reach him. Just before moving to Florida Bob made this Sample Slab for me. Edited to add: MMNS moved in 2012.
I apologize for suggesting that he may have had an ulterior motive for moving to Florida. It's just that the @Insider post made me think of the 90's incident. Chris
I've imaged one of his slabs with a crude counterfeit 1972 DDO 1c. No dig on him specifically though. Some of us who have been around awhile know that EVERY TPGS missed some pretty bad fakes when they first started. One seminar instructor tells the story that he got positions at two different TPGS because they had certified fakes. Note: The few counterfeits that get into major TPGS holders now (until they are detected) are "state-of-the-art" and would fool 98% of the dealers and numismatists who see/buy/handle them so that does not count!
Yeah, and on the other hand, a Mercedes convertible has much more splash on South Beach than in, say, Minneapolis.
Just happen to have this brought to my attention. Chris, if your going to make such acquisition you should do your research before posting such defamation of character. It was attacks much like yours that help drive MMNS into the ground. The heart of MMNS was focused on Honesty, Integrated and desires to bring accountability to all TPGH. The majority owner lost the company, his home and entire life savings. His greatest anguishe, losing what investors entrusted him with. I can tell you that Bob did everything possible to save MMNS / MNS. So before responding, PLEASE consider your response. If he was guilty of anything, it would be desiring to make a difference and be successful for all involved, and even more so for the Numismatic Society.
