1964 PR67 Kennedy

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  1. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I disagree! I think it was a sniper. At that price, a shill bidder wouldn't risk losing a sale with just seconds left in the auction.

    Chris
     
    cpm9ball, Jan 30, 2017
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  3. Stephen Seelig

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    Its the color, that pushes this one into a more desired type. I have a few that I've had graded by NGC but the toning on mine are totaly original they were sitiing in a wooden cigar box since 64, and toned coins seem to be a hot item now but things can change some people like bright white coins some like a little color.
     
    Stephen Seelig, Jan 30, 2017
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  4. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Tha phony toning ruined it...Would have gone for double that figure if it was left alone. OOPS! I thought it was MS 67...I still don,t like phony proofs.
     
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  5. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    More power to them. :)

    The only things which can cause that unnatural, uneven toning propagation are the folds of the end of a roll, or a very quick process with uneven application of the reacting sulfur since it's done too quickly for the reactant to spread evenly. And I don't see both sides of that coin being on the end of a roll....
     
    SuperDave, Jan 30, 2017
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  6. mynamespat

    mynamespat Well-Known Member

    You don't balance your coins on the edge for storage? I thought everybody did that....
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    mynamespat, Jan 30, 2017
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  7. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    No, but I've been known to do that with my pocket change while sitting at a bar, just for the looks I get. :)
     
    SuperDave, Jan 30, 2017
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  8. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I don't think so: 1-pretty coin (ok debatable lol) 2-popular/reputable seller 3-two bidders who badly wanted the coin...
     
    micbraun, Jan 30, 2017
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  9. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    that seller has lots of beautiful toned coins, hence the name
     
    Sean5150, Jan 30, 2017
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  10. handsomeblueboy

    handsomeblueboy Kentuckyman

    I do not know about this seller, but I am curious how some of them find so many toned coins.
     
    handsomeblueboy, Jan 31, 2017
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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Let me preface this by saying that I started warning people about that particular seller before CT even existed.

    That said, the things you describe above are not the only ways that toning similar to this happens Dave. There are literally thousands upon thousands of coins with natural toning that is like or quite similar to that on the coin in this thread. A great many of them slabbed by NGC and or PCGS. Double sided target toning has and does happen naturally. It can happen in albums, in can happen in envelopes, it can happen in several different ways. Here are some examples, first the coin in question, followed by others.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Glowing-196...JenzxvxM%2FgO1gIP%2F8pEXeWJvVrg%3D&rmvSB=true

    https://www.pinterest.com/swoopdog/toned-coins-domestic-and-international/

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-PCGS-M...987850?hash=item2eef66ceca:g:veYAAOSwSgJXOIg8

    http://picclick.ca/Special-1900-PCGS-MS65-Gem-Colorful-Target-Toned-371751021308.html

    https://forums.collectors.com/discu...of-history-from-b-max-mehl-numismatic-pioneer

    Now I'm not saying that the coin that started this thread is naturally toned, I'm not saying that at all. And I'm not saying that all of the coins I'm showing examples of are naturally toned. What I am saying is that if man can do it intentionally, mother nature already has - accidentally. And that contrary to what is all to often written on various forum that there are specific rules and ways as to how toning can occur - that there are no "rules" at all.

    And I am also saying that when it is done correctly, there in no way that anybody can say with any degree of certainty that artificial toning is indeed artificial. The very best that anyone can do is guess.
     
    GDJMSP, Jan 31, 2017
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