1964 PR67 Kennedy

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  1. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

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  3. Tinpot

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  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Just a bidding war over a pretty coin.
     
  5. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    But $321 on a $30 coin??
     
  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Based on the bidding history, it appears that two of the bidders were trying to outbid one another, and were so caught up in that battle that they didn't consider that a sniper might do them both in. The sniper had the advantage, hands down, because the others didn't know he was there until it was too late.

    Chris
     
  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Someone wanted to win the war.
     
  8. cpm9ball

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    That's what nice toning can do to the value of an, otherwise, ordinary coin.

    Chris
     
  9. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    I don't collect Kennedy's so I don't know the answer to this question.
    BUT I get the impression that the strike on these coins, even the proofs, was generally weak.
    So the PF-67 grade was a plus.

    Is that so?
     
  10. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    kanga, I don't think so...the PCGS population of the PR67 is 3,921
    http://www.pcgs.com/cert/80633173
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No, even 11 years ago there were 4,500 grade higher than 67. Today I expect that number has likely doubled.
     
  12. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Attractive toning makes an otherwise normal coin very unusual. What people consider attractive is an individual taste, but there is a very strong market across basically every series right now for toning that has the right look.
     
  13. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    I get the toning...but 10-12X the going price on a hoarded, very common date?? I just don't get it, but thanks to all.
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Believe it or not there was a time when it probably would have sold for a whole lot more. Realized prices for attractively toned coins have dropped quite a bit in recent years.
     
  15. handsomeblueboy

    handsomeblueboy Kentuckyman

    You have to be able to tell the difference, between natural and unnatural toning also.
     
  16. handsomeblueboy

    handsomeblueboy Kentuckyman

    Although I would not know the difference.
     
  17. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    It may be a very common date but try and find a similarly toned one. If you are looking for a certain type of toning very few dates in any series will have a substantial supply
     
  18. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Shill bidding that was unsuccessful. Watch to see if this coin is up for sale in the near future.
     
  19. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Well, this particular coin very much surprises me to see in a "righteous" slab. It certainly doesn't look natural to me - the pattern and color progressions are all wrong.
     
  20. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I'm not 100% convinced. This seller is one of the biggest in terms of toned coins. Many consign to him and plenty bid in his auctions. Now it is possible that a consignor outbid everyone and will have it up for sale on their own ebay account.
     
  21. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I would say it is questionable but not blatant enough to be rejected. Plus it has the secure plus shield, so PCGS has spoken!
     
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