I have faith in ICG grading vs NGC crossover...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by mrweaseluv, Aug 21, 2025 at 12:44 AM.

  1. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    That's right I'm about to ship 3 big boys and several other icg morgans for "regrading" there is no actual "crossover" from icg to ngc.. what that means is NGC gets the ICG coin with a release to remove them from their holders... they are then graded as Raw coins. So it's and all or nothing thing.. These coins could come back with higher or lower grades and with or without their PL designations but they won't make an guarantee on grade or designations prior to removing them from the slabs...

    I have faith in the grades ICG gave these 2 particular coins as well as the ANACs coin (which i consider undergraded)

    Note too that you can see reflections of me taking the pic on all 3 coins from at least 2ft away I don't doubt the PL status of any of these coins but to lose it... Ouchies..
    getting the paperwork and package together tomorrow but may have to wait till Fri/Sat to ship (though the accompaning coin should arrive tomorrow i have little faith in USPS)

    Anyhoo I'll update this as the package comes together but these 3 are 100% going...

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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    YOU said, "boys". You meant "girls". No. Say yes please, my wife is nearby. She hits..... :inpain:
    No, just joking.:oops: Right Dear? :)
    Where's the pink hue coming off those coins from?
    Other than that, beautiful examples. :)
     
  4. Dima

    Dima Member

    Best of luck! Crossovers are nerve wrecking -- especially if NGC cracks 'em and grades 'em raw.
     
  5. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    It will interesting to see the results.
     
  6. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

  7. chrissy1955

    chrissy1955 Member

    I don't get it, how can a AU-58 be considered Proof Like? (If that what PL denotes)
     
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  8. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I have had good luck going both ways.
    Sending ICG and ANACS straight to auction or having them cracked out and graded.
    Sometimes on high value coins, I feel they will do better in PCGS or NGC holders.
    I don't care much about the holder with coins that are staying in my collection. If I'm looking to sell the coin, I may spend the money to have them cracked out.
     
  9. Dima

    Dima Member

    The PL (proof-like) suffix refers to reflective, proof-like surfaces; not necessarily that the coin is pristine and perfect like most proof coins. I believe the PL suffix is certainly rarer on non-MS coins, but as seen in OP's pics, it does happen.

    Two coolest PL coins I've seen are an MS Mercury dime and an MS Columbian commemorative half.
     
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  10. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Best of luck on the sub! It will be fun to follow.
     
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  11. The Half Dime

    The Half Dime Arrows!

    These are 3 beautiful looking coins. The only downside is that NGC may dock you a grade or 2 for having used a different company. The AU58 PL would be especially cool to see the result of.

    Either way, your coin will realize the money of its true grade. That would be a crazy stat if each coin was upgraded, and for that I hope your 1899-O comes back from NGC at least a 65 PL. You'd gain over $100 with that.
     
  12. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    prices off a bit there :D but then there are only 303/238 PL 99 Os already graded by pcgs/ngc, making finding one a bit difficult :D I'll happily lose a grade point if it keeps it's PL status :D
     
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2025 at 10:02 PM
  13. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    when it comes to coin grading at least for me anyways PCGS will always be king and will always provide maximum return on investment.
     
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