Pretty pretty Morgans :D

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by mrweaseluv, Aug 17, 2025 at 1:25 PM.

  1. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    Ok in the long run I might regret this purchase, but I don't think I will.. even if it turns out to be "cleaned" I'm pretty sure I can recover my investment on these 2 pretty morgans one called "circulated" one called "uncirculated"
    Auction won for under 200....
    The morgans?
    78cc and 03s :D
    Watcha think of these :D
    78o.jpg 78r.jpg 03o.jpg 03r.jpg
     
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  3. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I don't think the 1878-CC is genuine. :( For starters, it's got blobby letters and stars on the obverse, and it has that fake-patina look that's still common on fakes.

    The 1903-S has a different look, but I'm suspicious of it based on the company it's keeping.

    Edit to add: I know what that 1903-S was tickling in my memory. The pawn shop I used to frequent once had a bunch of 1901 Morgans newly displayed - five or six of them, I think, all glistening with luster.

    I asked for a closer look, mainly to check the mint marks. Not a mint mark on the bunch.

    Now, an uncirculated 1901-P Morgan is a strong four-figure coin, and these were remarkably free of bag marks. A gem 1901-P is a six-figure coin. Five or six gem 1901-P Morgans would be... improbable.

    I called this to the shop's attention. I don't remember exactly how it shook out, but I think that either we found they were attracted to a magnet, or they were way light.

    I expect the store ate them; I can't imagine they were able to go back on whoever sold or pawned the things.

    In your case, if it turns out I'm right, I hope you got them from eBay or someplace with comparable buyer protection. Actually, I hope I'm wrong and you're a big winner on this pair -- but I'm not optimistic. :(
     
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  4. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    They're both counterfeits unfortunately...
     
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  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I have my concerns about them.
     
  7. No_Ragrets

    No_Ragrets Self-proclaimed Semi-Amateur Numismatist Supporter

    I agree with the sentiment that they do not appear genuine from these pictures. I would check the weights, VAMs, and magnet test them. Something just seems off...for having practically no marks in the fields the details on them are very mushy / soft. Do you have them in hand to take better pictures? That might help clear the air a bit. Hopefully they're genuine and you got a great deal, or at least returnable to where you got them from. Or dispute the charge on your cc for it? Best wishes and good luck!
     
  8. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Was this a test? The eye lids look heavy on that 78-CC. She looks drunk.

    The 78-CC would wholesale for more than $200 by itself so you wouldn't be able to purchase a real one for $200. A real 03-S in MS61 would wholesale for $6k.

    Either mark them and save them as learning tools or send back for a refund.
     
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  9. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I recall that the gash in the eagle's breast on the 1878-CC is a marker for a whole family of CC counterfeits, and yeah, even in AU that 1903-S is a four figure coin. If it's too good to be true, it usually is. Hope you can get a refund.
     
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  10. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    The 1903-S reminds me of this fake Peace Dollar I have. Many counterfeits have uneven or malformed rims.

    IMG_7440.JPG IMG_7441.JPG
     
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  11. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    If you got these from Ebay just contact the seller that you heard they are not
    genuine and the seller will let you return them
     
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  12. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    I'll give the seller credit.. as soon as I informed him they were fake and requested he cancel transaction he did with no arguement.. I hate getting caught out like this but it was an auction i found near close.. jumped too quick. I know about the breast gash so should have caught that right away and I didn't... ahh well can't win every time
     
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