1864 Indian Head Cent, and my attempt at grading

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Allan Ashford, Aug 12, 2025 at 10:42 AM.

  1. Allan Ashford

    Allan Ashford Active Member

    An 1864 Indian Head Centesimi. Looks in nice condition and going on one main reason, the liberty legend and how clear it is , I am going to risk a low grade Very Fine
    Appreciate any comments

    Allan
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  3. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    If it has not been cleaned it is at least XF.
     
  4. Allan Ashford

    Allan Ashford Active Member

    I havent cleaned it - back to the drawing board for grading!!
     
  5. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    So many people tend to overgrade coins. I like to conservatively grade coins myself so I agree with VF.
     
  6. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    Visible detail in feather tips, hair detail in the lowest curl and a bold necklace. I say XF for sure.
     
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  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I would grade this a VF as LIBERTY is not that sharp. While it’s strong even slight wear makes this a VF grade.
     
  8. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

  10. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    XF, but it looks like a TPG might say it's had an old cleaning. The color looks a bit odd to me on the high spots. Certainly I'm no expert, and can easily be wrong on this.
     
  11. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I personally would go upper end of VF and maybe squeak out XF40 at like a TPG. I do believe the wear I see limits it to VF, but in hand could be a different opinion.
     
  12. numist

    numist Member Supporter

  13. Sting 60

    Sting 60 Well-Known Member

    Cleaned a little bit, but this series has a history of of people trying to improve it's beauty. I like that the L is easy to see; that's the biggest thing going for this coin. Reverse is XF45 all day long. The obverse has wear and tear that is VF. still give it a XF all together. Thumbs up on your coin. Regards, Mike.
     
  14. ksmooter61

    ksmooter61 Not in Kansas anymore

    Very nice coin Allan. I like to see at least a hint of the line between the bottom of the ribbon and the hair for XF - VF35 for me.
     
  15. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    It’s an easy EF. If you grade it any lower, you are leaving money on the table. The “LIBERTY” is sharp, and you even have diamonds on the ribbon. You do realize that it is an 1864-L.
     
  16. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I didn't say you cleaned it or asked if you cleaned it.
    The coin is 160 years old, someone may have cleaned it before it came into
    your possession.
     
  17. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

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