What are the chances

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by rte, Aug 5, 2025 at 10:50 PM.

  1. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Do I try and breakout this $30 1884 Morgan dollar?
    Come on CC...I know you're under there.:p IMG_20250805_191308337.jpg looks like it was assembled in July of 1967
    IMG_20250805_191358605_HDR.jpg wonder if Poppy knows? IMG_20250805_191352110_HDR.jpg
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  3. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

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    Right now it is Schrödinger's Morgan Dollar. It is both a CC and not a CC.

    Once it is freed from the money clip it is one or the other, CC or not CC.

    Intact, as is, it can possibly be sold for a premium with the potential, actual or not, that the CC mintmark is there.

    Removed from its encumbrance the value is permanently established.

    In other words, leaving it on the clip always includes a potential premium, because someone always has the ability to remove it. Once removed, that unknown no longer exists.

    And therein lies the conundrum. What to do?
     
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  4. Corleone189

    Corleone189 New Member

    I'd say don't dismantle it, but in 1967 a silver dollar was a silver dollar- I don't think people cared about CCs before the 70s.

    Honestly, pretty tempting. If you can get it out carefully enough...
     
  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I’d leave that piece as it currently is. It’s a nice money clip and with a decent silver dollar on it, I think it’s special. If removed the bezel it’s in will reduce the coin to details.
     
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  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Yeah, besides the reverse would be destroyed to a details coin. :(
     
  7. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Considering the condition of the back of the money clip.
    It has something engraved on the top side also and scratched out.
    I'm going to take it with me to the next casino session and put all my gains in it... solid plan I know :p
    The money clip material is slightly magnetic, testing with a strong neodymium magnet so some type of stainless or chrome plated over brass
    I would consider suspending it upside down and put some heat to it.
    The coin if glued in should drop out.
    Maybe a dip in acetone first for a week.
     
  8. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    The back of the money clip is scratched up.
    Was something else engraved on it but scratched off. IMG_20250805_215152757_HDR.jpg
    It is slightly magnetic with a strong neodymium magnet like chrome plated over brassI.
    I'm considering an acetone soak and then some heat.
    If suspended upside down and heated the coin might drop out.
    That or water and overnight in the freezer.
     
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  9. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    How about Earth, Wind and Fire?
     
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  10. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    1951 was the Pontiac Silver Anniversary. My aunt bought a 1951 Pontiac. As a promotional item she was given a money clip with a silver dollar in it. Most people popped the dollar out. She kept hers as it was and later gave it to me. It is a nice Pontiac/Oakland Club collectable. I have since passed it down through the family.
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  11. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Well.... I believe the chances are probably not very good.... But if you don't free that dollar, you will never know! I would free it.
     
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  12. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    Best Answer
    Right now it is Schrödinger's Morgan Dollar. It is both a CC and not a CC.

    Once it is freed from the money clip it is one or the other, CC or not CC.

    Intact, as is, it can possibly be sold for a premium with the potential, actual or not, that the CC mintmark is there.

    Removed from its encumbrance the value is permanently established.

    In other words, leaving it on the clip always includes a potential premium, because someone always has the ability to remove it. Once removed, that unknown no longer exists.

    And therein lies the conundrum. What to do?
     
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  13. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    Lol, Russ, I had to click the “Best Answer” button on that one!
     
  14. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Richard Feynman would think about it
    Neil deGrasse Tyson would try to relate it to some obscure theory
    Steven Hawking would search through time to see if it has happened before
     
  15. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    14 million coins were produced that year. It's 13-1 against.
    The area on the reverse where the mint mark would be, may not even be there
    (looking at the reverse in post #6) it may have been polished off.
     
  16. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    This money clip has an enclosed back all the way around the coin.
     
  17. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Just as a joke of sorts... I could swap out the coin to this fake and change the 1967 to 1867:p
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  18. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    Lol, Shawn. Thanks. ;)
     
  19. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Yes I see the way it is set up and the coin is just in the holder.
    Of course I forgot about all the dollar coins minted and that total is
    28 million. So it is 27-1 against. Although an S coin would be good as well.
    But it is 50-50 that it is a Philly coin. The obverse needs an acetone bath, but
    I wonder if the reverse has been protected by being in the clip.
     
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  20. ksmooter61

    ksmooter61 Not in Kansas anymore

    C'mon, you gotta bust it out... it will still be worth close to $30 so you won't lose much, and the rest of us will get to know!

    Unless you decide not to tell us.
     
  21. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    I'm working on it :p well sorta, I had to swing by the casino and see if it was a lucky dollar. ☘️ :D
    It paid for itself like I wanted so now does it continue to be lucky for me the new owner :D or break it out...I don't have any pure acetone handy.
    Well another question:
    How are you supposed to use these things here's the plus $30 from the casino.
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  22. Corleone189

    Corleone189 New Member

    Nice!!! Is that in Las Vegas?
     
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