SMHA -or- SMHB ?

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  1. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    I just added another mint to my Constantius II fel temp with Christian symbol subset collection: Heraclea RIC VIII 69. But I'd like confirmation of the Officina as "A", or "B".

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    The whole coin:
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    I now have 18 coins in this subset, each with differing shape of Cross, Tau-Rho, or Chi-Rho; from a total of 8 different mints: Alexandria, Antioch, Constantinople, Cyzicus, Heraclea, Nicomedia, Rome, and Thessaloniki.

    It's not yet "in hand", but it's currently rolling its way (figuratively speaking) toward my mail box from across the Big Pond.

    Edit: I'm now leaning toward 'B'.
     
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2025 at 6:26 PM
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  3. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    It looks like workshop B
     
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  4. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    Thanks SO much, @Victor_Clark !

    BTW: 3 of my 18 came to me via your hands. :)
     
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  5. cmezner

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    I also see a officina letter "B"
     
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  6. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    ALmost certainly B. The A is much more angular on this issue. See my example below (nowehere near as nice as yours....)

    RI_170eb_img.jpg I have a smallish collection (about 20 coins) of this type too. I seem to have gathered mostly from Alexandria and Antioch...

    Here are a couple of examples from the mints you still have yet to obtain....

    Obv:- D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG, Pearl diademed, draped & cuirassed bust left, holding globe in right hand, N in right field
    Rev:– FEL TEMP REPARATIO, Emperor bare headed & in military dress standing, holding standard with chi-rho on banner in his right hand, resting left hand on shield, two bound captives in Phrygian helmets standing, facing each other before him
    Minted in Aquileia (//AQP Dot)
    Reference:- RIC VIII Aquileia -

    Looking at RIC there are three issues for this type at Aquileia.

    The first has no letters on either side. The captives are described as standing and would have AQP:dot: in exe. - RIC VIII Aquileia 107

    The next two both have N behind the bust and an N in the left field on the reverse with the captives described as kneeling.

    with AQP in exe this would be RIC VIII Aquileia 119
    and with AQP* in exe this would be RIC VIII Aquileia 120

    My example seems to be a mule from the later issues with letter behind the bust and the earlier issue with the captives standing but with no letter on the reverse.

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    Obv:– D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG, Pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust left, globe in hand
    Rev:– FEL TEMP REPARATIO, Emperor bare headed & in military dress standing, holding standard with chi-rho on banner in his right hand, resting left hand on shield, two bound captives in Phrygian helmets standing, facing each other before him
    Minted in Siscia (* | _ // BSISM). A.D. 348-350.
    Reference:– RIC VIII Siscia 225 (Rated C2)

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  7. philologus_1

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    @maridvnvm Thanks for that information!

    The last coin you posted, RIC VIII Siscia 225, is a jewel! It has a beautiful, crisp, clear, classic Chi-Rho. Nice!

    BTW: I miscounted my subset of these. I do have 8 cities represented (as listed above), but the total count is 21 specimens not 18.
     
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