POLL: Chi-Rho? Tau-Rho? Latin Cross? Equilateral Cross?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by philologus_1, Jul 16, 2025.

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Which Christian emblem appears most often on Roman coins from Constantine through Marcian?

Poll closed Jul 23, 2025.
  1. Cross (Latin-style; elongated; vertical bar being noticeably longer than the horizontal bar)

    2 vote(s)
    20.0%
  2. Cross (Greek-style; equilateral form; vertical and horizontal bars being roughly equal length)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Chi-Rho (in any form that includes an apparent 'P' intersecting an apparent 'X' in some fashion)

    6 vote(s)
    60.0%
  4. Tau-Rho (in any form that includes an apparent 'T' intersecting a 'P' -- even if it's a mere 'loop')

    2 vote(s)
    20.0%
  1. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    I'm fairly sure I know the answer, but admittedly it's just my best educated guess. A conclusive/scientific answer would require a massive amount of data well beyond what I have, or that I could process even if I had it.

    Please don't nail me on terms or semantics. (Pun intended.) I know about the Staurogram, which for my intents and purposes is a Tau-Rho. I know about the Iota-Chi, which so very rarely appears on coins that it wouldn't be in the running for #1. I know about the Patriarchal Cross with two horizontal bars, which also appears so infrequently that it wouldn't be in the running for #1. Etc. Oh! And I know about the terms Christogram and Chrismon. Enough caveats? ;-)

    I'll post my answer at the end of the 7-day poll, and will not allow the poll results to deter me from revealing the answer I now presume to be true - no matter how far wrong the poll proves me to have been. :-o Warning: Sorry, once you vote, you can't change it. At the end of the 7-day poll I will post which emblem received the most votes, but until then you have to vote to be able to see which emblem is winning. :-D

    OK, enough from me. What do you all think? Based on YOUR knowledge and experience combined, which of the 4 listed basic emblems seems most prevalent on Roman coins during the stated time period?
     
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  3. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I voted Chi-Rho for no other reason than that is a very prominent image in my church and I love it.... Hows that for scientific?
     
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  4. philologus_1

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    Thanks to all who voted! I'm genuinely appreciative to have had 10 participate! :)

    As promised I'm showing the results so that all current and future CT'ers can see:
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    So, per the poll, to some degree "HOC SIGNO VICTOR ERIS" came into play. ;-)
    Chi-Rho was victorious! Moreover, after doing some DEEP diving (including but not limited to AI assisted research), the Chi-Rho truly seems to deserve first place. So kudos to those who voted accordingly!

    Also as promised, I'll reveal my hunch: It was Chi-Rho. (But since I have handled SO many AE4's with Christian emblems/symbols/monograms, I honestly suspected that the Tau-Rho may be a close 2nd to Chi-Rho. But it seems that is not the case. Chi-Rho has no close 2nd on Roman coins in the stated time period.)

    FWIW: The earliest coin in my collection with one of the 4 poll possibilities, was struck in 318/319, in the first half of Constantine's reign. As you can see it includes a Cross. (I bought it from Zach/"Beast" over 16 years ago.)
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  5. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    This is the first time the Chi-Rho appeared on bronze coinage

    Sis_VLPP_Chi_Rho.JPG

    Constantine I
    A.D. 319
    18mm 2.8g
    IMP CONSTANTINVS AVG -- high crested helmet with Chi-Rho, cuir., spear across r. shoulder, shield on left arm decorated with horseman leaping over fallen enemy.
    VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP -- two Victories stg., facing one another, together holding shield (wreath) inscribed VOT PR on altar.
    in ex. BSIS•
    RIC VII Siscia 61
     
  6. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    I liked your post of this coin, but would like to give 99 more! (That's one of two coin types I've been "keeping an eye out" for the past 10+ years.)

    Is it in your collection? If so, I up my likes from 99 additional to 999 additional!
    Especially since it's such a gorgeous, high quality specimen! Insert *drool* here.
     
  7. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Yes, it is mine. I collect VLPP from Siscia and have about 40 of them; but this is the star of the collection.
     
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  8. Barry Murphy

    Barry Murphy Well-Known Member

    The king of Chi-Rho coins of Constantine...

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