1884 CC does this have a VAM assigned?

I saw this very interesting CC today and thought I would share the picture. Has anyone ever seen this before? It does not coincide with the VAM 2.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222386408135?ul_noapp=true
http://www.vamworld.com/1884-CC+VAM-2

 

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Every Morgan dollar is a VAM. There are about 15 assigned for the 1884-CC, so it would be best if you posted images of the entire coin.

Chris

 

This ones easy➡vam6

 

You chose as your detail images the two exact features for which VAM-6 is identified.

 

It may be easy, but collectors new to VAMming should get into the habit of examining the entire coin, not just one or two small spots. I mentioned this for the benefit of those newcomers to VAM's.

Chris

 

OK, thanks to both of you.

 

Chris is correct. Every Morgan and Peace dollar have VAM assignments. Check VAMworld website. It's all about die pairings, and Messrs Van Allen and Mallis worked tirelessly for God knows how long to compile their catalog. Excellent background info at that site. Check it out..you'll quickly pick it up.

The idea is to eliminate possibilities to correctly identify the VAM. For example, if you can see that you are looking at a far date, you can narrow the possible VAM assignments. If you can see the mint mark in a high and right-leaning position, you can further narrow the possibilities. This way, you do not have to look at each variation.

Some coins are easy to identify without any website help. 1880-CC VAMs 4-5-6-7 are great examples. Same for 1893-S...ain't but 2 VAMs. But if you want a real challenge, check out 1921 and 1921-D (hundreds). Oy vey!

 

U

 

VAM 6 is called out in the Ebay listing.

 

Not the ones that haven't been found and listed yet

Leroy is still at it

 

I wonder how many man-hours he's put into this thing over the last 60 years.

 

Well if he's only spent 10% of that time doing it that's over 52,000 hours

 

I won't say it. I would be banned for life.

 

Heck, I'm putting more time on average into numismatics than that, and this is his life's work.

It would not surprise me if close to double that number is more accurate.

 

Well that's working off of a 24hr/day number. If we say a workday consists of 12hr then the number stands with your doubling

 

It's a rare week I don't manage 25 hours on numismatics - not all strict "scholarship," I count my time keeping track of the varieties I watch on Ebay and other sites. I've been at it for ten hours today alone, and won't be doing anything else while I'm on vacation this week. I'll put 60-80 hours in this week alone. That's ~1300 hours a year, and I've been doing it continuously since 2004. Close to 15,000 hours, and I know I've underestimated the time while I was actively Moderating.

And Leroy Van Allen's level of obsession makes me look casual.

 

Yeah, and every car isn't a wreck until it is involved in an accident!

Chris

 

They don't all have VAM assignments, yet. Not even sure what you're trying to say.

 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but all are considered VAM-1 until proven otherwise. Is that right @messydesk ?

Chris

 

VAM 1 is considered a die pairing with no discernable features to be able to give it a specific classification. Its like a catch-all for generic die pairings.