1897 Guatemala 1/2 Real Doubled Die or Master Die?

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  1. bkh2014

    bkh2014 Member

    Doubled die or Master die?

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  3. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    There's nothing but strike doubling on that.
     
  4. bkh2014

    bkh2014 Member

    I think not! The devices are not reduces. I am sure this is doubled die but want to sure enough if possible master die.
     
  5. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I'm not understanding what you just said after, "I think not!" Can you explain that a little better? Thank you.
     
  6. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    If I understand correctly, I think he means the reduction process from using a lathe to create master hubs and dies? In this case, it doesn't really make sense.
     
  7. bkh2014

    bkh2014 Member

    So this is just strike doubling a.k.a MD?
     
  8. bkh2014

    bkh2014 Member

    What i am trying to said that i am not in for machine doubling, the stem and leaves can explain in the last photo.
    And for master die just to sure enough or maybe that's all.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'm inclined to agree that the coin was struck with a doubled die, the appropriate diagnostics are there.

    As to your question, doubled die or master die, I don't know if Guatemala even used die hubbing back then. But with a little a work you should be able to determine an answer to your question. It will however require examining quite a few coins.

    Now given that you asked such a question I'm going to assume that you probably know this, but in just in case you don't. ..... With the hubbing process a single master hub is used to create a master die. The master die is then used to create working hubs, and each working hub is then used to create working dies.

    So, if, and it's a big if, the die doubling were on the master die then all examples of this specific coin would exhibit the same die doubling - all of them. But if they don't, then you know it was not the master die, but a working die.
     
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