Crispus

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  1. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    Hi all, Just got this Follis today. I Like the contrast, and thought the mintmark was interesting. Never seen this MM before. Sounds like a sad story about Crispus. Do you think Fausta framed him as the story goes? crispus 3.jpg crispus rev.jpg
    CRISPUS 317-326 AD Æ3 Roman Bronze Coin
    Obverse legend: CRISPVS NOB CAES (laureate head only)Reverse legend: CAESARVM NOSTRORVM (wreath enclosing VOT V)RIC VII 241 - Arelatum Mintmark(Tstar-in-crescentA) (Arles, France)(e94)
    Flavius Julius Crispus was the son of Constantine I by his first wife. A brilliant soldier, Crispus was well loved by all until 326 A.D., when Constantine had him executed. It is said that Fausta, Crispus stepmother, anxious to secure the succession for her own sons falsely accused Crispus of raping her. Constantine, learning of Fausta's treachery, had her executed too.
    Diameter: 18,4 mmWeight: 3,11 g
     
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Days of our lives (NBC)?......Happens all the time in the 'Naked City'.........:)

    Real life too, but that's usually kept under the radar........folks that don't need to know, never know.
     
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  4. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    Ya, it seem's some things never change...I noticed the S is missing in Crispus, wonder why. Damaged die maybe?
     
  5. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Yes, she is 100 percent guilty/ evil woman.
     
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  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

     
  7. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    There was a paper or article I read recently about the execution of Crispus and Fausta and it having to do with political intrigues. If I remember what it was...

    How about my latest Crispus?

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    Crispus Caesar, AD 317-326
    Ӕ Follis, 18m, 3.1g, 6h; London mint, AD 318
    Obv.: FL IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES, Laureate draped cuirassed bust right
    Rev.: PRINCIPIA I-VVENTVTIS; Crispus standing right in military dress, holding spear and shield, crescent in left field
    In Ex.: PLN

    Here's mine like yours:

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    Crispus, AD 317 - 326
    AE, follis, 3.01g, 19mm; 6h; Aquileia mint
    Obv.: CRISPVS NOB CAES; laureate, cuirassed bust right
    Rev.: CAESARVM NOSTRORVM, VOT / (dot) / V in laurel wreath
    In Ex.: (dot) A[Q]S (dot)
     
  8. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    That's cold blooded for sure. I read she got her dues... boiled alive in a overheated bath?
    Very nice coins there, really like that reverse as a soldier.
     
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  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Neat mintmark.

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    CRISPUS (317 - 326 A.D.)
    Æ(S) FOLLIS
    O: IVL CRIS-PVS NOB C, Laureate head right.
    R: CAESARVM NOSTRORVM, VOT X in wreath, mintmark Delta SIS sunburst in ex.
    3.8g
    20mm
    Sisca Mint
    RIC-181D
     
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  10. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Crispus was poisoned. Fausta was suffocated in an overheated sauna. Not exactly boiled. The sources are murky; some assert that she and her stepson Crispus plotted treason together and even had an affair. Others say Crispus made advances to Fausta and was denounced by her and then executed, but Constantine came to regret the execution, fearing he had
    been misled.
     
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  11. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Gorgeous coin, Mat! Congratulations.
     
  12. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Here is my Fausta.

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    Fausta (324-326 A.D)
    AE3
    O: FLAV MAX FAVSTA AVG Mantled bust right. Bare headed; waved hair drawn into a bun at the back.
    R: SALVS REI-PVBLICAE Fausta standing facing, head left, holding Constantine II and Constantius II as babies.
    STR dot-in-crescent
    Trier RIC 483
    3.15g
    19mm
     
  13. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Thanks man! I really wanted it because of the reverse and even more so as a companion coin to his half brother...

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    Constantine II
    AE Reduced follis, 18mm, 3.1g; 6h; London, 318 AD
    Obv.: FL CL CONSTANTINVS IVN NC; Bust laureate, draped cuirassed, seen from back
    Rev.: PRINCIPIA I-VVENTVTIS; Prince in military dress, standing right, cloak spread, leaning on reversed vertical spear, hand resting on shield; crescent right
    In Ex.: PLN
     
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  14. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    That's a real beauty!
     
  15. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I've been considering pursuing other members of Constantine's family...that a very cool coin!
     
  16. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    Good stuff! I'm working on the Constantinian Dynasty too. Interesting History .Finally found a niche to chip away at.
     
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  17. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

  18. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info. Sounds like a real tragedy either way.
     
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  19. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Happy as the devil there ain't no women like that in my life......my wife may want to kill me at times, but she re-thinks things in the long run, and loves me all the same.





    I think. :)
     
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  20. old49er

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  21. old49er

    old49er Well-Known Member

    LOL! ya I know the feeling...
     
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