AI image technology + ancient coin collecting led to... THIS!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by philologus_1, Jun 20, 2025.

  1. philologus_1

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    I took a mere 3 minute diversion from working on my daily "to do" list, and made my first attempt at having AI create an image. Below you can see my request, followed by the result. Methinks the AI image is deserving of a caption! Ideas?

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  3. philologus_1

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    Higher quality image:

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  4. expat

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    Cool image @philologus . My idea for a caption,
    Oblivious to anything else.
     
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    My idea for a title:

    Collecting Life In the Old Days

    You did great for 3 minutes of your time.
     
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  7. kountryken

    kountryken Well-Known Member

    Methinks that you deserve a title, "AI Artist Extraordinaire"! Thank you. I learned more than I've ever known before about creating an AI image. That's not saying a lot because I didn't know anything about it, but now I have an idea of the creative abilities of AI.
    Ok, caption. "Last known photo of Great Uncle Mortimer before he and his priceless coin collection mysteriously disappeared". Additional information revealed that Great Aunt Morticia, when questioned, stated that she left to go visit her sister and when she returned, he and his coins were gone. Not long after this, she retired to the Hamptons.
     
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  8. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    LOL -

    Collector: Just one more die-variety and I’ll prove the 1623 half-thaler is mis-catalogued. Then the collector's society will finally respect my footnote… and maybe I’ll recoup what I spent on that "unpublished" kopek.

    His partner: “I guess we will be eating "ancient bronze surprise" again tonight.
     
  9. mcwyler

    mcwyler Active Member

    "Your dinner's in the dog!"
     
  10. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    You didn't ask for this 17th c. Dutch atmosphere. The AI understood "male ancient coin collector" as "ancient male collector of coins". And it led it to imitate Flemish or Ductch paintings of money changers (15th - 17th c.). What if your request had been worded "male collector of ancient coins"?
     
  11. philologus_1

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    I'm pretty sure it was my request for the image to be a "painting" that turned AI's direction toward that period of time. (Which really isn't "ancient" since it was only 400-500 years ago.)

    But, I did two quick tests. Below are two (very) different results that AI delivered when I tweaked my request to align with your idea that AI was focused on making the man and woman ancient themselves, rather than the coins being ancient. The first try produced a man from ancient times. The second try produced a man whose age is ancient (in a sense of hyperbole).

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  13. philologus_1

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    Yes. And... that wife with raised club, advancing in attacking position toward mate, seems to have the temperament (and goal) of a cross between an angry Wilma Flintstone and an angry Raquel Welch (from the movie, One Million Years BC).
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  14. mrweaseluv

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    strangely enough every one included a less then happy spouse :D
     
  15. numist

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    I like the one where she's wielding what looks like a old typesetters inker. I'm thinking AI was wanting to put in a rolling pin and that's what it came up with.
     
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  16. philologus_1

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    That was just AI following my direction. In #1 I asked for a "bored housewife", and that is pretty much what AI delivered. But in #2 and #3 I decided to up my game. In #2 I asked for her to be "angry" and "holding a raised club". In #3 I again asked for her to be "angry" and "holding a raised pie dough roller".

    Below is a close-up. I was wanting AI to include a pie roller like you are also thinking of. I should have written this in my request: "A wooden pie roller, as commonly used in kitchens in the mid-20th century, with one handle at each end". What she's holding does look like a typesetter inker (or paint roller).
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    On a whim I 'googled': Vintage Pie Dough Roller images.
    The results included these 3 images:
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    Still not what the elderly wife is holding, but somewhat more along that line.

    To make a connective segue back to ancient coins... below is a coin I bought from a VCoins dealer in 2012. I show it because the flan is SO thin that it could have been rolled out by a metal pie roller. Although it is 14.5 mm in diameter it weighs a mere .42 grams. It is amazingly thin and fragile! It's even more thin than the skinniest Byzantine tremissis I have! And it's in lovely condition. Many of these are bent or have severe flan cracks. It was definitely worth the $25! :)
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    p.s.: My wife was not angry with me when I bought it.
     
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  17. Tall Paul

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    I've never heard of a pie roller but I have heard of a rolling pin.
     
  18. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    And why a bored housewife, after all ?... Why should a woman feel unhappy with her husband's hobby?
    My wife has never been interested in ancient coins but she has always been very patient with this, from day one, we were still students, for example when I was spending more than one hour bargaining an as of Nero in Tunis (I am sure she was bored but refrained to show it). On several occasions she has even offered me some of my nicest coins, a sestertius of Gordian III or another one of Nerva for example, calling a specialist to take advice from him.
    That's not like if I had the passion of raising snakes at home or spending our money with escorts.
     
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  19. JohnnyC

    JohnnyC Active Member

    But seriously, that's quite an impressive result.
    At first sight I can't see anything that gives it away as AI generated.

    Ross G.
     
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  20. atom

    atom Active Member

    i copied your exact request and had chatgbt produce the following image: ancient coin collector styding his coins bored housewife.png
     
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