Ancients => Mmmm, Lesbos

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  1. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Yah, sorry ... I'm sure a few of you horn-dogs were expecting something a bit more racy, eh? ;)

    Well, for the folks that did click this thread to see a sweet coin from Lesbos, I'll proceed ...

    Today I managed to score myself a pretty sweet
    golden-ish treat!!

    I love the cool Silenus obverse and as most of you know, I find it very difficult to stay away from cool animal examples!!

    LESBOS, Mytilene. EL Hekte – Sixth Stater
    Circa 454-428/7 BC
    Diameter: 10 mm
    Width: 2.44 grams
    Obverse: Diademed head of SEILENOS (Silenus) right
    Reverse: Two ram heads butting each other; palmette above; all in incuse square
    Reference: Bodenstedt Em. 37; HGC 6, 963
    Other: 6h … toned
    From the Kallman Collection

    Lesbos Silenos & Rams.jpg

    :rolleyes:

    Please feel free to post any, or all of your relevant examples ... ummm, like your Lesbos coins, your Silenus examples and/or your satyr examples, your cool ram coins, or whatever floats your boat!

    Cheers

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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    I'll start by posting my only other Lesbos goldie ... Ram & Bull

    LESBOS, Mytilene. EL Hekte – Sixth Stater
    Circa 478-455 BC
    Diameter: 10 mm
    Weight: 2.48 grams
    Obverse: Ram’s head right
    Reverse: Incuse bull’s head right
    Reference: Bodenstedt Em. 27; HGC 6, 954

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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Man, I thought you were staying away from goats/rams.

    Excellent coin little brother. I have nothing from Lesbos.
     
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  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Thanks, Bing (you and your rules, eh?) ... :rolleyes:

    Here is a statue of good ol' Silenus ...

    => Lookin' good, my friend! (*hic*)

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    Abode King of Nysa
    Symbol Wine, grapes, kantharos, thyrsos,wineskin, panther, donkey
    Consort Hermaphroditos
    Parents Pan, or Hermes and Gaea
    Children foster father of Dionysus, Pholos

    => best tutor "ever"
     
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  6. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Some very cool coins there Steve.
     
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  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    The absolute ONLY Ram that I have!

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    Nektanebo II AE15, 361-343 BC
    Pharaonic kings of Egypt. Nektanebo II (361-343 BC). AE15 (3.24 g).
    Rev. Ram leaping left, head right.
    Rev. Scales.
    Weiser 1 (Nektanebo II); Butcher 11 (uncertain northern Syrian mint).

    Raised sheep as a kid, and even had sheep on the farm when I lived in the UK. However, the only sheep/ram coin that I have!)
     
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  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Atta-boy, Gandalf => thanks for being the first coin-friend to post one of their cool coins! (you rock)

    :rolleyes:
     
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  9. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    That is awesome stevex6! Very nice pre-revolt example from around the Peloponnesian War. Great history in that little piece of electrum.

    I, on the other hand, was not so fortunate in my coin acquisitions today. Got outbid at the last minute on a pair of beauties I've been eying for weeks... oh well! Congrats again on the sweet new coin!
     
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  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Well, if nobody else wants to go, then I'll post another sweet satyr example (can't get enough of those horny lil' rascals, eh?) ... yup, they're always up to no good!

    Thasos, AR Archaic Stater. Satyr & Struggling Nymph
    Islands off Thrace, Thasos

    c.525 - 463 BC
    Diameter: 21.5 mm
    Weight: 8.60 grams
    Obverse: Satyr carrying off a struggling nymph, who raises her arm in protest
    Reverse: Quadrapartite incuse square
    Reference: SNG Cop 1010
    Other: Nice metal with good facial detail. A classic archaic Greek type

    (NOTE: David Sear stated circa 460 BC ... yes, I sent this baby to his ranch)

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    :eek:
     
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  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Cool Silenos/double ram combo! Your coin year is starting out great.

    No Lesbos here, but a couple of rough ram heads...

    Single ram from Aegina.
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    Double ram from Kebren.
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  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    :rolleyes:

    Awesome ... thanks for the sweet examples, Z-Bro

    Oh, and thanks for the coin-compliment as well (yes, I'm lovin' 2017 .. .so far)
     
  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, I have to take-off for an hour or so (shovel the driveway) ... but "please" continue to post your examples

    Thanks, gang
     
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  14. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

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    Lesbos Obverse w Cent LR.jpg
    LESBOS, Mytilene
    EL Heckte -
    (Pigasus)
    521-478 B.C.
    2.55 grams, 10 mm
    Obv:
    Winged boar facing right,
    Rev: Head of Roaring Lion right
    Grade: Fine with decent
    centering. Incuse roaring lion is
    well preserved (inverse relief) &
    obverse boar’s head is worn.
    Other: From Eye Appealing 4/2015
    ex Heritage 2014
     
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  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Another ram for ya.
    TROAS KEBREN.jpg
    TROAS KEBREN
    AR Obol
    OBVERSE: Archaic head of Apollo left
    REVERSE: Ram'S head left within an incuse square
    Struck at Troas, Kebren Circa 450 BC
    .56g, 7mm
    Rosen 534; Traité pl. xxxix, 25, SNG Ashmolean 1086
    ex. Aegean Numismaics
     
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  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Great coins, fellas ... thanks for posting

    => here is a cool ram from another area ...

    Ionia, Klazomenai. Æ19
    Mid-late 4th century B.C.
    Diameter: 19 mm
    Weight: 4.63 grams
    Obverse: Bust of Athena facing slightly right, wearing triple-crested Attic helmet
    Reverse: KLAΖOME/NIΩN in two lines above, ram walking right; in right field, trophy
    Reference: SNG Munich 484; SNG Copenhagen 86
    Other: 5 h … Mottled red, tan and green patina


    Ionia Klazomenai.jpg

    => please keep your cool examples comin' ...
     
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  17. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Nice ram/ goat/ Lesbo coin. Don't have any of those types though.
     
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  18. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    I have one of those.
    Actually it is one of my last two purchases of 2016 that arrived late last week.
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  19. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Nice nab, Steve-O!

    Okie dokie :)

    My first Silenus was on a Corinth stater, which was also my first "good" coin (ie, not from a crummy "uncleaned" lot of slugs. I felt guilty for spending money on a coin. In my family, collectible coins are lucky finds from pocket change but the odds of finding an ancient coin in US pocket change were a tad slim :D. I thought it would be okay to buy just one coin. Yeah. One coin. That was the plan :rolleyes:. The story of its acquisition is here.
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    CORINTHIA, Corinth
    345-307 BCE
    AR stater, 8.65 gm
    Obv Pegasus flying left, qoppa below
    Rev: helmeted head of Athena left wearing necklace; head of Silenus behind
    Ref: Ravel 1046. Calciati 408. Scarce variety.
    from Heritage Auctions, June 2013
    This scarce variety was chosen to represent Corinth staters, #23 in Harlan J. Berk's book, "100 Greatest Ancient Coins".

    Another Silenus beckoned, this one with a creepy/evil facing head. Finding an example with a clear face (not too smushed, not too obscured by the undertype on these often overstruck coins) was difficult and I got lucky with this one.
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    MACEDON, under Roman rule
    D. Junius Silanus Manlianus, praetor
    142-141 BCE
    AE, 20 x 22 mm, 9.5 gm
    Obv: Facing mask of Silenus, wearing ivy wreath
    Rev: MAKE ΔONΩN legend In two lines; D above; all within ivy wreath
    Ref: SNG Copenhagen 1324

    A year or two ago I bid on and failed to win a cool electrum hekte in which the person on the obverse was wearing a mask of Silenus pushed back on his head. If you turned the coin 90 degrees counterclockwise you could see it clearly. A couple more came to market after that and I nabbed the worst one I've seen. It's good enough though and the price was more palatable.
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    IONIA, Phokaia
    EL hekte, 11 mm, 2.5 gm
    c. 478-387BCE
    Obv: head of young male left, wearing Silenos mask on top of head; to right, small seal downward
    Rev: quadripartite incuse square.
    Ref: Bodenstedt Em. 70; SNG von Aulock –; Boston MFA –; BMC 43
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    Last year I picked up a very nice EL Pigasus from Lesbos:
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    LESBOS, Mytilene
    521-478 BCE
    EL hekte, 10.5 mm, 2.6 gm
    Obv: forepart of winged boar right
    Rev: incuse head of lion left; rectangular punch behind
    Ref: Bodenstedt Em. 10; HGC 6, 935; SNG von Aulock –; Boston MFA 1678; BMC –
    I have a thing for these winged pigs and am slowly trying to buy at least one from each ancient city which issued coins with winged pigs, whether as a main device or a control mark or secondary device.
     
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  20. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    Those are super sweet electrum coins @stevex6! Centered strike and the bust of Silenus is BA! I acquired these last year and they are my first from Lesbos.

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    Lesbos, Mytilene. AE20, ca AD 250-268
    Mytilene, Lesbos. AE20, ca AD 250-268, time of Valerian to Gallienus. 2.4gm. Head of Zeus Ammon right with horn of Ammon / MUTILH-NAIWN, bearded herm of Dionysos facing, on prow, bunch of grapes at lower left. BMC 184

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    Lesbos, Mytilene. Antoninus Pius AE18
    Obv: ΑVΤ ΑΙ ΑΔΡΙΑ ΑΝΤΩΝƐΙΝ[ΟС] / Laureate head of Antoninus Pius, r.
    Rev: ΜVΤΙΛΗΝΑΙΩΝ / female figure (Tyche?) standing, facing, head, l., holding patera and transverse sceptre
    RPC IV, 2627
     
  21. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    No EL or Lesbos here unfortunately. Coin show Friday,
     
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