4 over 2, 1992 (D ?) close AM (touching), with FG straight serif.

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Eore, May 16, 2025.

  1. Eore

    Eore New Member

    She's no beauty queen.
    I'm sorry that this coin doesn't present a better look, if that's what could have been, or why your here.
    When looking for, what I call the ghost error, there are 3 guidelines or hints.
    1.Coin MUST show a 1992 D date, with sometimes a faint hint of the D mm.
    4 over 2.jpg
    2. In the designers initials (FG) on the reverse, the G shows no serifs, anywhere. Just a circular image with a straight up or down arm. NO serifs !
    That's where the ghosting factor really takes hold of your ability to make the call on the font. It's like picking pepper from flea droppings.
    Sometimes it's easy... I see a 2, and I know a 4 is a close AM. Very easy.
    IMG_200516_001351.jpg
    3. If the A and the M are TOUCHING on a 1992 (mm ?). I'd buy it, only if.
    IMG_20am16_001625.jpg
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Sorry, I have to disagree here. All I see is a damaged 1994 Cent. ;)
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2025
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Ghost error? Nope. I've never heard of it.

    You have a 1994 Close AM which is normal :bored:
    The FG is normal.

    There's no such a thing as a 4 over 2 variety.
    What you are seeing is paredolia. You are seeing things.

    What the heck does picking pepper from flea droppings even mean? o_O
     
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  5. Eore

    Eore New Member

    I'm waiting for whole coin photo's.
    Doubling in Lincoln's image, with no doubt of a date.
    Also,
    On the reverse with a negative filter an E can be see in the gap between the last A in AMERICA and the FG.
    So.
    If I can clearly show, in hand, 4 over 2 in it's date,(above photo's only) I'll have your blessing as a 1992 cent and it's tells of a close AM ?
    I'm just spit balling here on a theory. Research.
    .
    @paddyman98
    "What the heck does picking pepper from flea droppings even mean"? o_O
    .
    Hold that thought.
    She has friends.
    92.jpg
     
  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    You are wasting your time, and you are wasting all of ours.

    You have a dirty/stained Cent. There is no 4 over 2 variety buddy.
    You will not convince anybody on this forum on your theory!

    Look up the definition of the word PAREIDOLIA

    Please Stop :stop:
     
  7. VistaCruiser69

    VistaCruiser69 Well-Known Member

  8. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Yes likely found and picked up with no gloves on! :D
     
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  9. Eore

    Eore New Member

    @paddyman98
    "What the heck does picking pepper from flea droppings even mean"?
    A description of PAREIDOLIA. ...Sry, could'nt resit.
     
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  10. Eore

    Eore New Member

    If you really look at any two dates, being 1992 and 1994. The spacing of each font will expose (make (something) visible by uncovering it.) a fit, as shown in photo below.
    2 pics filtered.png
    Two dates, any one of each date. Not of the coin in question.
    When laid over each other, one screened one not, this happens to it's view.
    Then do it's reverse lay over of the two dates for a better view.
     
  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    It's still not an error nor variety of any kind.

    You have a 1994 copper plated zinc with minor plating issues on the date. Nothing else.

    Please stop.
     
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  12. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Spend it before it dissolves.
     
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  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    This is not how varieties are found Eore.
    The coin is corroded end of story.
    Spend your time looking at mint state or near mint state coins. Dealing with damaged coins is only going to leave you with damaged coins.
     
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  14. Eore

    Eore New Member

    Researching a theory summary.
    I have an idea of how and why this came about.
    I just think its pretty cool how it's registration holds up during the striking process. Here's the coin with the 4 over a 2.
    IMG_20250521_004.jpg
    I was hoping for a better conclusion and this is why my interest.
    IMG_20250302_184133.jpg
     
  15. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    "I knew I knew you, I knew it". It's hard to face the truth but sometimes we have to say, "What the heck!". Being new to the hobby is tough. Many members here have been doing this for decades, some a lifetime. Study, learn and you'll get there some day too. ;)
    The coin is damaged. No errors of any kind. :(
     
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  16. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Corrosion, nothing more.
     
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  17. Eore

    Eore New Member

    Two D, or not two D...
    ah,.........What was the question ?
     
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  18. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    NO!
    Those are copper plated zinc cents with plating blisters around the numeral.
    Just damage. None of your theories are correct.
     
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  19. VistaCruiser69

    VistaCruiser69 Well-Known Member

    D as in DNA. The coin is covered in it.
     
  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    These two coins are suffering from being zinc and copper plated. Your coin is not an overdate. It’s only worth one cent and barely that in the condition it’s in. Not a mint error of any type.
     
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