Counter-stamped quarters: Is there any interest in them?

What is the general opinion in coin collecting about the quarters counter-stamped by Daniel Carr with his own initials? Do these have any collecting appeal or is there little interest since the stamps happened after the coins were minted? Are the stamps considered damage to the coin?

 

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I didn't even know they existed
Meaning Carr Counterstamps
Many collectors sat that type of alteration is considered damage

 

To me it’s a modern cent so no extra value.

 

Agree.
I have many!

 

My point exactly and they all appear to be on the State Quarters.

 

I'd say most collectors consider it damage, but Dan Carr fans might have interest I guess. It's along the lines of the QuarterMaster items posted above or the quirky things counterstamped on Lincoln cents etc, but it's more like the self-promotion stuff stores used to do.

 

It is interesting to note that there is not any noticable damage on the reverse side of the so-called counter-stamp.

http://www.moonlightmint.com/dc-coin_prot_quarters_list.htm

 

Yes a counter stamped coin is a damaged coin. I have assembled a state quarter book of counter stamped quarters so yes there is some interest in them.

 

I like little oddities like this. I'm sure there are quite a few people that have them for curiosities. I do the older wheat cents that are stamped with the Masonic symbol are popular with some collectors.

 

There are counterstamped coins that sell for many hundreds or even thousands of dollars, so yes, I'd say there is interest in them.

 

Yes there are but they are not modern issues which is being discussed. Please don’t confuse the two.

 

That particular countstamp (DC) On that particular state quarter (designed by none other then Dan Carr) could be considered a "signed piece".. Retail value $15 from Moonlight Mint and I expect it will increase in value over that of a regular 2001 RI quarter
https://www.dc-coin.com/2001newyorkparodyquarternickel-copper-1-2-1.aspx

 

Your accusation of "silly and self-inflicted numismatic ignorance" is rude and quite inappropriate, and has been reported. Counterstamps are one area that I am certainly as far from "ignorant" as someone could possibly be.

The question was: "Do these have any collecting appeal or is there little interest since the stamps happened after the coins were minted? Are the stamps considered damage to the coin?". The question involved their status as a post-minting addition, and that status applies to counterstamped coins from any era. And yes, such post mint "damage" can bring premiums, including big premiums, from collectors.

Furthermore, every counterstamped coin was "modern" when it was created. Today's counterstamps will be vintage or antique one day.

There are counterstamped coins that were created as novelties or collectibles within the past 50 years or so that sell for hundreds of dollars. There are counterstamped coins being created today that will sell for significant premiums before too long.

Those are the facts, despite any arrogant and dismissive accusations to the contrary.

 

Awwww,

I really feel bad now. I'm going to go to the U.S. Mint and self-immolate while holding a photo of a Carr initialed Quarter, and I will wear an Armband with the Act Of Contrition on it.

Just.....pleaseeee, don't tell Sister Crotchety and Monsignor BingoBingo.

I will get kicked out of St. Hellodelicious, for for the Cardinal Sin of offending a Board Drama Queen.

Please forgive me.

 

May I ask what they are?

 

Carr, unlike most people, has the ability to seat the other face of the coin against a pretty accurate die before counterstamping it. At least, I assume that's how he does it.

A counterstamp without a significant corresponding mark on the opposite face is interesting all by itself.

 

Too many for me to remember, but off the top of my head: "Vote The Land Free" (c. 1848) which now seems to get over $200 pretty consistency for a decent example (one sold for $379 on ebay recently), several hundred dollars for "Hauck's Panacea" (19th century), a few hundred dollars or more for any of the 19th century burlesque or minstrel shows, often over $100 for 19th century quack medicines, hundreds of dollars for many 19th century gunsmiths, etc.

For issues in the past 50 years or so: Mel Wacks' Camp David Peace dollars sell for hundreds, Anguilla Liberty Dollars (1967) usually sell for over $100, Chinese students' Freedom Dollars (1989) sell for hundreds (one sold for $800 in a Spinks auction a couple years ago), Western Reserve issues sell for over a hundred.

Exceptional or unusual examples of some of the above coins, or ones like them, have sold for over $1000, if I recall correctly.

The 19th century coins were "modern" when they were produced, and viewed as just damaged coins for many decades afterward. Many were treated as culls for a very long time.

Many of today's modern counterstamps will one day be as scarce, desirable, and valuable as the older counterstamps are today.

 

Something tells me your apology isn't sincere.

I'm not by any means a Drama Queen, but simply someone who dislikes the spread of disinformation, especially when delivered in such an arrogant and disrespectful way.