I just picked up this holed Augustus denarius. Naturally, it got me interested in holed ancients. It was pointed out to me that most ancient nails were square, not round, so a round hole must mean the hole is relatively recent. I know there are exceptions, but most handmade nails are made from square stock because it's quicker. When I look at holed ancients, the majority I've seen have round holes. Does that mean all the stories about pierced coins used as charms, votive offerings, etc are just wishful thinking? Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
I assume that nails were designed to go through wood. If you are trying to bore a hole through metal, you want a round point so that the force is more evenly distributed.
I've heard the same @jggonzalez99. So you have to wonder about the perfectly round holes. Here is one with a squarish hole: QUINTILLUS Antoninianus OBVERSE: IMP CM AVR CL QVINTILLVS AVG, radiate, draped, cuirassed bust right REVERSE: PAX AVGVSTI, Pax standing left, holding olive branch and transverse sceptre, A in left field Struck at Rome, 270 AD 2.2g, 20mm RIC 26 And one with a round hole OTACILIA SEVERA Æ Sestertius OBVERSE: MARCIA OTACILIA SEVERA AVG, diademed and draped bust right REVERSE: SAECVLARES AVGG, SC in ex, Hippopotamus standing right, head raised Struck at Rome, 248 AD 18.6g, 30mm RIC 200a, Cohen 65 ex Warren Esty Something of note between the two holes. The square hole has no buildup on one side of the hole, while the round hole does. Not sure, but the build up may indicate circular pressure pushing the metal out as say a drill bit forces it way out the opposite side.
Yes, but I'm thinking more about what is easier to manufacture by hand. All of the references I see refer to square bar stock being used for nails. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
Good question. I've been wondering the same thing...Yet 'Damned' bad silver fourrees alway seem to have a round hole as well. I hope someone can clarify this a bit more.
If you pound a square nail in, you can get square hole. If you twist, rotate, or drill a square peg, you will get a round hole.
The mistake made here is assuming these holes were made using a nail (which most were not). The Romans made good use of such tools as augers, awls, drills, etc.
My only Holed coin, and my last coin purchased in 2016, and my first coin received for 2017 (from @Valentinian ): RImp Spain AE 30mm, 14.2g; struck 44-36 BCE Lepida-Clesa Lepidus moneyer C Balbus L Porcius Colonia Victrix Ivlia Lepida (VIL) Victory Bull holed (via drill) RPI 262 plate 19.JPG Ex: Warren Esty
As a hobbyist black smith for 25 years, I can tell you that nails were typically square, not necessarily because the raw metal started square, but because the smith hammering out the nails made it square out of expedience, while hammering. Now punches are typically round ( and yes jggonzalez'99's coin was punched, not drilled. That's why there is an indent on one side and a bump on the other) because square punches can cause weird stress problems in metal when they are used on cold metal (hot punching is another topic). Square punches are also more likely to get stuck in the metal they are punching. Bing's Quintillus coin is another story. That jagged hole was not likely done with a normal tool Either drill or punch. It looks like it may have been some unusual blow. Maybe it stopped an arrow point while in some ones pocket. Bing's OTACILIA SEVERA was a neater job. The punch was used on both sides to even out the indenting and to make a cleaner hole. But the excess material on both sides shows that it was punched and not drilled. Allegandron's coin was most likely drilled. In general punches were commonly used, because it was quicker and easier than drilling for most people, prior to the late 1800's/early 1900's. I can make a punch in a campfire, using a rock for an anvil, if need be. Making a drill is a serious project.
I have a small collection of Greek (Classical and Hellenistic) silver, formed over the last half century, composed of "pierced" coins. They demonstrate a variety of piercings, from the very rough and forceful random type to the very fine and "well thought out" piercing that considers the position of the obverse head type relative to the hole. That has led me to think that piercings were carried out not necessarily at the same period when the coins circulated but in many cases much later. One of my favorites used to be a large late Classical bronze of Tegea on the Peloponnesos that had a very big hole right in the middle of it, on the head of Athena. It is a very rare coin and it was sold with all my other Peloponnesian material a few years ago. I still believe it was nailed to the temple of Athena at Tegea which we know was wooden.
My only holed coin: Caracalla, 198 – 217 AD Æ28, Caria, Alabanda. 9.10 grams Obverse: AV K M - ANTWNINOC, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right. Reverse: ALABANDEWN, Tied laurel branches. References: SNGCopenhagen 15 SNG Von Aulock 2401 Provenance: CNG Electronic Auctions 160, lot 207, $59
I only have one holed coin. A rare denarius of Commodus from Alexandria. Commodus denarius Obv:– M COMM ANTO - N AVG PIVS BRIT, Laureate head right Rev:- LIR AVG R M TR P - XVII COS VII P P, Libertas standing left folding pileus and sceptre Minted in Alexandria. A.D. 192 Reference:– BMCRE -. RIC -. RSC -.
I found this one on acsearch... LHS Auction 96. Is this the coin you're referring to? If so, very interesting!
Great info... thanks! I have two holed coins, both of which I like very much. A drachm of Abdera and a hefty Claudius sestertius.
Here's one I've wondered about for a while. It's an as of Germanicus that's holed on one side, with a slight bump on the other. Unfortunately, I no longer own this coin, so I can't send a better picture: Do you think someone started drilling and just gave up halfway through, or is there a better explanation?
Yes, it is! (I envy your ability to transfer photos from different places into this discussion). The legend is ΑΘΑΝΑΣ ΑΛΕΑΣ and the temple was of Athena Alea. The archaic version of the name of Athena points to earlier times when temples, or at least their doors, were wooden. The statues inside were also wooden "xoana" (plural for xoanon).
That's an odd one. The side with the raised metal is always the exit hole, not the entry. I would assume that the other side is just filled with earth and hardened.
I suppose I might as well add this 'holed' fourree of Domitia---'damned' for bad silver is the usual explanation....