Red Book vs. PCGS (not for pricing)

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  1. russell1256

    russell1256 Well-Known Member

    I have been putting together a Type Set based on the Red Book. For Seated Liberty Quarters, the Red Book and PCGS lists are different, any thoughts as to what to follow?

    RED BOOK:
    Seated Liberty Quarter Type 1, No Motto (1838-1853, 1856-1865)
    Seated Liberty Quarter Type 2, Arrows & Rays (1853)
    Seated Liberty Quarter Type 3, Arrows, No Rays (1854-1855)
    Seated Liberty Quarter Type 4, Motto (1866-1873, 1875-1891)
    Seated Liberty Quarter Type 5, Arrows at Date (1873-1874)
    Seated Liberty Quarter Type 6, With Motto, Arrows at Date (1873-1874)

    PCGS:
    Liberty Seated Quarter Type 1, No Drapery (1838-1840)
    Liberty Seated Quarter Type 2, No Motto (1840-1865)
    Liberty Seated Quarter Type 3, Arrows & Rays (1853)
    Liberty Seated Quarter Type 4, No Motto, Arrows at Date (1854-1855)
    Liberty Seated Quarter Type 5, With Motto (1866-1891)
    Liberty Seated Quarter Type 6, With Motto, Arrows at Date (1873-1874)

    HELP?
     
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  3. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I followed my conscience Red Book won.
     
  4. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I like the PCGS list better. It is a cleaner presentation of the date ranges, even if the Red Book is technically more accurate.

    The PCGS list also breaks out the important subtype, No Drapery, that the Red Book does not separate.
     
  5. samclemens3991

    samclemens3991 Well-Known Member

    I consider 1838-1840 to be a separate type. But I also consider the no motto coins from 1840 to 1852 to be separate from the no motto coins from 1856 to 1865. Same goes for the break in 1873. Any excuse to add more coins. James
     
  6. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    It's not like there is a single, authoritative reference that's going to decide. I guess you could check NGC's coin explorer for a referee...

    You have to pick one reference and follow it.

    Both the Red Book and PCGS' Coin Facts are good references.
     
  7. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    The most interesting and innovating and complete enjoyable collections that I have seen over the years, all have one aspect in common....no adherence and no restrictions established by 3PGs or 4PGs, or singular Red Book or otherwise "Guides". Their collections are what I would classify as all are welcome.

    The collections of 2 members on CT are examples.

    They can respond if they want to.
     
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