Arab Byzantine reverses for fun

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  1. markw

    markw Junior Member

    Loving the reverses of these early imitative Arab Byzantine coins. These are all 'vanilla' Constans II "ANA NEOS" copies aFourFollesReverses39.JPG .

    Crazy over these things.
     
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  3. markw

    markw Junior Member

    And three more...very distinctive type with "bowling pin" strokes to the left of the 'M'. One researcher calls this issue the "Ugly Square Flan" type.

    From earlier coins hammered flat. There is a common nonsensical "mint mark" under the 'M's that is hard to see in the picture.
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  4. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    I acquired a whole lot of these with 25% being Arab/pseudo Byzantine. Anybody have a good book on these they can recommend? I have Goodwin and Foss but still have a handful I can't find.
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    An example:
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  5. markw

    markw Junior Member

    Treasure
     
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  6. markw

    markw Junior Member

    Wow. That's a striking pile of coins. A couple of them...I feel I almost know the die-cutter.

    I use the Foss book, but there seems to be a lot of research on these published on the web under the "academia" site.
     
  7. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Thanks :) The original pile was too large to photograph in detail. Which site is that?
     
  8. markw

    markw Junior Member

    I think this:
    https://www.academia.edu/

    One can use a facebook or google login and download articles. Some are really specific arab-byzantine investigations by enthusiastic researchers.
     
  9. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    The next step up from Goodwin and Foss is "Sylloge of Islamic Coins in the Ashmolean, Volume I, the Pre-Reform Coinage of the Early Islamic Period" by Steve Album and Tony Goodwin. It covers both Arab-Byzantine (#505-742) and Arab-Sasanian (#1-504).

    Keep in mind that there is little indication that the celators had much guidance as to what to produce. With dies created by hand, there is always the chance that the next die was somewhat different and your next coin will be, usually in some minor way, unlisted.
     
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  10. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    No wonder I never got it. They are $280 to $700 on amazon. Yikes....but the ANA has a copy :woot:. I know where I'm going this weekend! If anyone is interested I can post my findings :writer:
     
  11. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i have one of these...

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  12. markw

    markw Junior Member

    I'd like very much to hear about your findings.
     
  13. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Nice. I seem to have given mine away at some point :/
     
  14. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    @MW.. Try to pick up among this collection those coins with Arabic lettering regarding the mint or the name of the city, such as Homs, Damascus or Tiberiad etc.. Researches are mostly based upon these findings.
     
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  15. markw

    markw Junior Member

    More Arab Byzantine fun...an excerpt from the Foss catalogue, and one of my coins that is similar.
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