Some Byzantine Trachys

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Mat, Jan 10, 2017.

  1. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Not my main area of interest but I do like to add Byzantine coinage when I can.

    Top one is JA grab, bottom is the bay.

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    Manuel I, (1143-1180 A.D.)
    Billon Trachy
    O.: Christ, bearded, seated facing on throne without back, wearing nimbus cruciger, pallium, colobium, Gospels in left; no stars; in field / IC – XC
    R.: MANYHΛ ∆ECΠ; the Theotokos (Virgin Mary) standing facing at right, crowning the emperor standing at left, holding labarum and globus cruciger; M above Mary's outstretched hand.
    Constantinople mint, 1167 - 1183 A.D.
    28mm
    4.1g
    SB 1966

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    Alexius III (1195 - 1203 A.D.)
    Billon Trachy
    O: IC-XC, + KE HQEI Bust of Christ facing, beardless, wearing nimbus cross, holding scroll & raising hand in benediction.
    R: [ALEZIW ECP TW KWCTANTI] Alexius & St. Constantine standing facing, holding labara, globe cross between.
    Constantinople mint
    2.62g
    30mm
    Sear 2013
     
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  3. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Same here, not seriously interested in them but I do enjoy the occasional nice one. Cool coins Mat.
     
  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic


    Thanks, VK.
     
  5. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Yours are quite nice Mat, I have 20 or so at the moment including some EL and AR.
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    Michael VIII
    Constantinople
    1261 to 1282 BC
    AE trachy
    Obvs: Patriarchal cross on floriate base
    Revs: Half-length Michael holding globus within labarum
    21x25mm, 2.61g
     
  6. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    How do you store them?

    They don't fit well in flips or albums?

    I like them because they are so different but I don't know what to do with the ones I have.

    John
     
  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice coin, David.

    Actually I just put them in 2x2 paper envelopes. They are separate from my other ancients.

    Same goes for my Cartwheel Pennies and some larger modern bronzes.
     
  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I suggest small cardboard jewelry boxes - you can get them at most dollar stores or craft stores. They provide the necessary protection. Don't put them in flips and then in albums, especially if other coins rest on them when you close the album. I had one crack on me that way. They may have been tougher when they were struck, but centuries can make the metal brittle. Whatever you do, minimize the chance of putting any pressure on them.
     
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  9. markw

    markw Junior Member

    I very much enjoyed looking at these.
     
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  10. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    @Mat I like both your coins and I feel every ancient collector should have at least one. I got a few coins delivered yesterday and showed them off to a couple non-collector co-workers. Guess which they immediately gravitated to:

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    Alexius III Angelus-Comnenus, AD 1195-1203
    Billon Aspron Trachy, 30mm, 3.3g, 6h; Constantinople mint.
    Obv: IC - XC; Facing bust of Christ Pantokrator.
    Rev: Alexius and St. Constantine standing facing, holding labara and a globus cruciger between them.
    Reference: Sear 2011-2013.
    From the YOC Collection via JAZ Numismatics
     
  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice Trachy scores Mr @Mat ! Both look great. I know very little about them, as they are way out of my collecting area. However, I believe we have twins, and I got mine from the JA grab too... Sounds like he has some syndicate thing going on... Yeah, those are his grubby paws in the pic.

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    Manuel I Comnenus, AD 1143-1180
    Aspron trachy, 35mm, 4.6g, 6h; Constantinople mint.
    Obv.: Nimbate Christ, bearded, seated on backless throne facing, wearing pallium and colobium; book of Gospels in his left hand; IC (overlined) and XC (overlined) on either side, no stars in fields.
    Rev.: MANVHL DECPOT; Manuel, standing facing wearing crown, divitision, and loros, holding globus cruciger in his left hand and labarum in his right hand, is crowned by the nimbate Virgin standing facing, wearing pallium and maphorium..
    Reference: SB 1966
    Ex: @John Anthony - "Johnny the Coin Hawker"
     
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  12. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Some neat additions Mat. I have really gotten into Byzantine much yet, though I do have a few.


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    Bulgarian Imitation of Manuel I

    AE - Trachy
    Two figures standing facing,
    left figure wearing collar with six dots, waist band with five.
    Christ, nimbate, standing facing
    star to either side
    Type A


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    Latin Empire of Constantinople
    AE trachy, 1204-1261 AD
     
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  13. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Since I've first seen these I've wanted one just haven't pulled the trigger yet. Nice examples here.
     
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  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Mat => congrats on scoring your sweet new OP-trachys

    I'm fairly sure that I only have these two humble examples ...


    Isaac II BI Trachy

    1185-1195 AD
    Mary with baby Christ & Isaac II

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    Andronicus II Bi Trachy

    1282-1328 AD
    Six point star & Andronicus II

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  15. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice examples, Randy.

    Love the star one, Steve. Never seen it before.
     
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  16. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i only picked up a few low grade byzantine coins last year, this trachy was the nicest one of the group.


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    Isaac II Angelus, 1185-1195 AD
    O: Mary, holding infant Christ, R: Emperor. Constantinople mint. SB 2003, 3.2g 29 mm
     
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  17. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    I know nothing about these so forgive the question, but have an almost silver wash quality to them. Are some? or is that a toned brassy color.
     
  18. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    randygeki => I try not to pry too much into my coins' private lives, but I'm fairly sure that both of my examples are "BI" (not that there's anything wrong with that)
     
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  19. fulguritics

    fulguritics New Member


    The first coin, as it had been when you posted it last and I corrected the attribution for you is not of Isaac II, but of Theodore I Lascaris at Nicaea, S.2062, with enthroned Christ rather than the enthroned Virgin as on the similar Isaac II trachy most commonly encountered.
     
  20. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    I have three billon trachy:
    Manuel I, (1143-1180 A.D.)
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    Isaac II, 1185-1195 AD
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    Andronicus
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  21. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Some cool trachys in this thread.

    I miss Steve and his over the top humor!
     
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