1943 "copper" "bronze" "shell caseing" one cent...

Say what you will, I appreciate it. Sorry so many pics lol. Last thread I found on this forum about a 43 copper, you guys bashed the guy for not having any pics.

 

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I agree. Surfaces do not look good. I don't know why none of the several dealers OP showed it to couldn't just pop it under a microscope and settle the issue in about 5 minutes.

OP, if you won't believe anything we say, send it to ANACS to be examined by professional authenticators.

 

We only bash for 2 things. No pictures and too many pictures.. Oh and also small, dark and blurry pictures

 

The three is not added. The color of the coin is not that of a typical shell case cent. Your coin looks like a die struck counterfeit. It does not look like the typical modern Chinese fakes that are more granular.

Check the edge. If it is flat and sharp, the coin is fake.

 

Following along, I hope for your sake it's real.

 

I'm just curious on how you acquired your Cent..

 

Very interesting indeed. I hope that you don't become offended by some of the negativity you may pick up on from some of the forum people.

This coin comes up quite often on this forum, and others. To date, every single one that has been displayed has been a forgery of some kind (plated, modified 48', etc...). I think in general people have become highly suspicious of this coin, along with other key dates, mules, etc... And don't even get me started on the whole Chinese fakes market... Blech.

I am but a wheat novice, but the date and details looks good in my eyes. I think the other posters questioning the surface may be onto something. It does appear worn in high points, but grainy in the open fields.

Out of curiosity... How on earth could such a rare coin end up having wear on it? Seems strange to me.

Unfortunately, no amount of online coin forums will ever provide you with an answer that you seek. You've obviously spent time examining the coin and have picked up on nothing. No one on this forum has stated what is wrong with this coin either (lots of gut feelings, but no actual diagnostic references yet).

I think the only answer is to honestly get it to a professional service who can verify this. If it is verified as genuine... The sky's the limit on its value!

I wish you good luck!

 

Send it in to be authenticated. Post the results with pics when you get them back. Otherwise, we could be here all day long....and after offering opinions and such. I won't include mine. I am no expert on the Lincoln series.

 

Because it looks a lot like every other wheat cent out there. All it has to do is blend in for a while amongst people who don't look at it or who don't know/care that it's rare.

See http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/82709, where examples down to XF45 are listed in the population figures.

 

...It gave me a good chuckle when I got about 1/2 thru and discovered OP had created a small magazine for us to look at...

 

...and I'm highly skeptical of any coin with this sort of potential worth in which the seller hasn't sent it to be graded first before selling. Have to ask, "why would they not want to greatly increase the worth before selling?"

 

Perhaps most "collectors" below your skill level have never heard of a TPGS. He has taken it to dealers who were of no help. They may have told him to get it authenticated just as members here have.

Look at it this way, possibly every GENUINE 1943 copper cent started out his way (along with every fake) when it was first discovered.

 

Very easily, and I'm sure, if you think about it, you'll come up with a number of "rare coins" that display wear, damage, problems, etc.

Perhaps it would be better to suggest he take everything with a grain of salt. Unfortunately, saying "no" forum will "ever" be able to answer his question could very well be giving false hope where there's very, very little.

This is reasonable, especially considering how the OP said he acquired it (see below), but he'd be wise to take the cheapest solid option possible and again, keep his expectations very, very low.

Negativity? Should we all congratulate him just to be sure we don't hurt his feelings? Life isn't all fluffy kittens and roses; sometimes being positive just to be positive can do more harm than good.

Perhaps you'd like to consider the following...

IMO, this is infinitely more "negative" than anything said to the OP, and is also another fine example of how people do buy and/or pay up for what they do not know/understand (even though certain individuals here just love to claim it doesn't happen). If anything, getting the OP to look backwards, especially is there is any way for him to recoup the purchase price if need me, could be a very good thing.

 

As stated I appreciate the opinions, never said I dont believe anything you say. Im no expert...seeking expert advice, further than my limited 100est. Hrs. of research on 43 lincoln cents, errors and experimental planchets..thx for the input

 

its a 1948

 

, worst-case

Im asking because if its authentic from a U.S. mint as I believe at this moment I would like to create a buzz about the coin and get its full value if its certified and goes to auction, otherwise hopefully its one the worlds best fakes and I can say that n get what I paid for it as is.

 

"before purchasing it for a good [sum] of money"

So, the seller was wise enough to know that there is a premium to a Brass 1943 cent, but they have never heard of Coin Grading? mmmmmhmmmmm

 

Over the Internet through search engines..searching 43 copper penny..from a man in Puerto Rico, who sells clothing and accessories. I do not know the coins history past that point.

 

I paid a little more than you would for a regularly advertised "43copper cent"....... in fine print "novelty" or "platted" one would sell for.