Meiji Era 1 Yen coin - fake or real?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by eck frankert, Jan 8, 2017.

  1. eck frankert

    eck frankert New Member

    Hello,

    I'm new to this forum.
    I have got a Meiji Era 1 Yen silver coin purchased on a Taiwan Flea market.
    The coin is non-magnetic and has a weight of 26.6g.
    I guess it might be a fake because there are so many around.
    Just want to make sure.

    Thanks,
    Frank
     

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    The weight is close enough. That's all I can help you with...welcome to CoinTalk!
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  4. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    I believe it fake, sorry.
    The texture and weakness on the "900" is one of several red flags.
     
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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I'm not doubting you but does that not seem like circulation wear?
    (cool my first interaction with Daniel Carr :cool:)
     
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  6. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Year 8 is a very rare year if I remember correctly. Quite certain this is the key date of this series. This is dated 1875.

    Details are wrong and underweight. This is still a very easy counterfeit to tell. The recent super counterfeits are actually so scary - I've decided not to spend any more of my money because it's that bad.
     
  7. eck frankert

    eck frankert New Member

    Attached a different perspective.
     

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  8. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    All of the details are mushy, looks cast to me
     
  9. eck frankert

    eck frankert New Member

    Ok guys, thanks for the feedback.
    Luckily i didn't pay too much...just 8$.
     
  10. ewomack

    ewomack 魚の下着

    Yes, 明治八年 (1875) has the lowest mintage and by far the highest price of the extremely awesome Meiji Dragon series. The JNDA lists prices for this piece at 800,000円 to 5,500,000円 or, in today's exchange rate, approximately $6,800 to $47,000.

    Since you paid only $8 for it, that says quite a lot on its own. Judging by the pictures you sent it is not a coin that I would have purchased (though I'm no authentication expert), but for $8 I may have picked it up just for fun. I'm glad that you didn't pay very much for it in any case.
     
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  11. ewomack

    ewomack 魚の下着

    I'm sorry to say that I'm heading in the same direction. Given the current terrifying environment, I can't imagine making a huge investment in coins, regardless of how confident I feel about my ability to spot fakes (many of the new counterfeits fool experts). I'm now buying far far less and only at non-risky prices. This situation doesn't bode well for the hobby in general. It's very, very sad.
     
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  12. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    What are these super counterfeits you speak of? They fool the experts???
     
  13. Rushmore

    Rushmore Coin Addict

    Better to be out only $8 and not $47,000
     
  14. ewomack

    ewomack 魚の下着

    Yes, over the past few years I've read various articles in CoinAge, Coin World, on the internet and elsewhere that discuss counterfeits that even experts didn't detect. Another interesting, or terrifying, read is "Numismatic Forgery" by Charles Larson. It discusses in some detail how many fakes are made. This line from the preface says it all: "If you consider yourself to be a serious collector, investor or dealer and the contents of this book don't frighten you, you have ice water in your veins."

    Counterfeiting has the potential to completely destroy this hobby for a lot of people, and it may already be well on its way. So be careful out there.
     
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