Proof Cents "Double Plated"

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Pete Apple, Apr 10, 2025.

  1. Pete Apple

    Pete Apple Well-Known Member

    I have been researching plating issues on Copper Plated Zinc Cents.

    The information I have found has been both interesting and challenging. My research has resulted in some papers I prepared to organize the information in a way that I can understand.
    Unfortunately, I have only scratched the surface! It seems that I continue to find significant related aspects that I may yet include in future revisions.

    I am sharing one of those papers here in .pdf format.
    Click on the link to read.


    CONCLUSION
    The average weight of Copper Plated Zinc (CPZ) Proof Cents, compared to the average weight of CPZ Business Strike Cents, along with a permissive Mint Tolerance for Copper Plating Thickness on Proof Cents, and separate specifications for each of the three planchet types in use, suggest that the copper plating on proof cents is at least twice as thick (or more) as the copper plating on business strike cents.
     

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  3. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Wow, you really put some work into your project. Thanks for spotlighting an unknown (at least to me) topic.
     
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  4. Pete Apple

    Pete Apple Well-Known Member

    You are welcome! I found it interesting and challenging!
     
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  5. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I don't quite understand this - "Plating Thickness: 0.008 mm + 0.017 mm/-0.003 mm (0.0003 inches +.0007/-.0001 inches)” quoted from the mint. It's supposed to be 0.008mm but can be as high as 0.025mm and as low as 0.005mm? That doesn't make sense.
     
  6. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Probably reflects the tolerances that it's practical to maintain with the particular process that the particular supplier wants to use. Let's not kid ourselves that the specifications for Zincolns reflect anything but the wishes of the winning lobbyists.
     
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  7. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Nice work!
     
  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Nothing, including the US Mint, is perfect.
     
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  9. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    You haven't had my wife's homemade Lasagna!
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  10. Pete Apple

    Pete Apple Well-Known Member

    Agree. It is confusing! I have received several communications from the Mint RE: tolerances, and their format is inconsistent! I interpret this to mean that thickness tolerance covers the range of 3µ to 17µ. What they left out of their information is what the tolerance is for each planchet type (if any!).

    I do think their planchet specifications call for a plating thickness of 8µ for BUSINESS STRIKE and 16µ for PROOF STRIKE. Since Mint Tolerance for cent thickness is about ±33%, it may be that is roughly their tolerance for these values, also. Without the documentation they are withholding (general contract substance and summary is available online, but no additional details), this is the best guess I can make! Their mention of 3µ is a mystery, but may just be an outside limit.
     
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  11. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Makes me wonder if they mixed the tolerances for proof and business strikes together. Something like business is .008mm, proof is .017mm, and they're both +/- .003mm. Hundredths of millimeters is really tiny though so I can see where there would be a wide variation.
     
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  12. Pete Apple

    Pete Apple Well-Known Member

    I see how you read it ➡️ could be a possibility!
     
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