Bought this 2 cent today. What will it grade?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by C-B-D, Jan 4, 2017.

  1. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    It didn't CAC because that is the epitome of an MS-70 treated, altered color coin.

    Some like the look. I don't. But that's just my opinion. If you like it, I'm glad you were able to get it into a problem free slab. Many don't make it.
     
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  3. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I'll take a gander after you post your pics.
     
  4. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member


    That's what I've read. I owned a 1880 Indian cent that looked the same way. Thepennylady told me it looked like it was dipped in the ms70.

    Both coins graded as brown so I'm guessing the color happened after they went into the holder.
     
  5. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    No, the color happened before they were slabbed. They are graded "brown" because any color besides original cherry red is called "brown" for grading purposes. Multicolored toning (even when its original, natural toning) is called brown - because it is not the cherry red of untoned copper.
     
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  6. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Popcorn only until then, although I'm optimistic. :)
     
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  7. kazuma78

    kazuma78 Supporter! Supporter

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    I sent this one in to pcgs and they nuked it. Gave it quest. Color
     
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  8. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    It's a beauty!
     
  9. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    Blue can also be a good indicator of treatment with MS70.
     
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  10. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    Your particular coin looks market acceptable to me.
     
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  11. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    The images have a lot to be desired. If what I am seeing is due to strike, I would call it MS63 BN. If there is rub (and you could only tell if the luster is impaired in hand), I would call it AU58.
     
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  12. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Not surprised at all. PCGS is known to be much harder on these. For example, @BigTee44 's coin would definitely not have slabbed at PCGS.
     
  13. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    On the original coin I think it will come back 63. Looks nice to me.
     
  14. iontyre

    iontyre Active Member

    Interesting. Maybe I will send my '65 (Avatar coin) that PCGS nuked to NGC.
     
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  15. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    Ms 63 brwn

    From the hobby center and think tank of MTS.LLC
     
  16. kazuma78

    kazuma78 Supporter! Supporter

    Darn, I should have sent it to NGC instead. I just cracked and resubmitted to PCGS 2 weeks ago. Guess I just wasted my money... oh well I guess, you can't win them all
     
  17. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    It looks MS to me but hits on the vertical and horizontal shield bars, along with hits on the left wheat and the "2" will keep it out of the upper registers. There are also what appears to be numerous pits or bumps on both the O and R fields, but that might be an artifact of the toning.
     
  18. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    What do you think now? Some surface marks / bag marks, but Gem luster and color in my opinion. I think MS64 BN... RB if they take it easy on me. Wondering now if I should go with NGC instead of PCGS. Hmm... Well, in the meantime, I like it enough to make it my avatar.
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    Last edited: Jan 6, 2017
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  19. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    "How do you like me now?" :p

    The marks in the center of the shield are more prominent in your images, and I think 63 might be a stretch as a result but these are sorta out of scope for me. The color is just a whole 'nuther coin from the original images. Very close to a retained cud on the reverse; wouldn't shock me if there's field displacement.

    Very, very nice. Pushes all my buttons. :)
     
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  20. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    OK, OK, RB is out of the question now that the dreamy love feelings have faded a little. But these are graded less on bag marks than, say, Morgan Dollars. So I'm sticking with 64 from somebody. PCGS or NGC.
     
  21. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Darn thing got shipped to me in a folded piece of paper, no padding in the outer envelope, but it survived. Sigh.
     
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