I came across this and I've always wanted to add one to my collection but I wanna be sure it's legit since counter fits are always out there of everything. And is 159 a good price for a fine 12
Yep certainly legit, not a bad looking coin, I used to have one a few months ago. sold it! Wasn't as nice as yours though and I only sold it for around $60, here's a pic!
Thanks for your guys input I appreciate it. I have little to no clue about half cents but always loved the design and how it's fractional.
I don’t like the coin in the OP at all. If it’s real, it’s been cleaned and recolored the reverse is really bad on that account. The date does not look right for the stemless reverse. Not genuine! I just did an NGC certification check and the pictures do not match. You can Google NGC cert check. All you have to do is enter the serial number on the slab.
Wow. I would not have thought that counterfeiters would produce one in that low of a grade. I guess these days if somebody wants to collect they need to seriously be schooled on fakes.
Look closer. There is a dark spot on the lower right obverse of the fake. The reverse toning or color is completely different. The fake obviously has artificial toning with a reddish spot on the reverse.
Must be above my pay grade. I can't see anything that could not be explained by photographic variations. On the other hand I am far from a copper expert and even less so with very old type cents. I was also blinded temporarily by a medical crisis in Dec. of 2024. Eyeglasses at 64 have been quite the esperience. James
Outstanding CSI work, John. Also, compare the 6 in the date between the OP pic and your pic. Your pic shows the top of the 6 with a space below the bust. The OP 6 seems to be touching the bottom of the bust.
Wow thank you guys! I almost pulled the trigger on it last night but I told my self I better ask on here knowing there was people that know a lot more then me! I looked up the serial number on the slab and compared it but i thought it might have just been different lighting I definitely will be reporting the fake!
You should check out the serial numbers of slabbed coins before you purchase them. NGC has pictures of a very large number of the coins they have graded. PCGS has fewer pictures, but it’s one more way to catch counterfeits. Unfortunately the bad guys have copied the certification holders. The fact that it’s in a holder does not guarantee than an offering is genuine.
The photos look nothing alike. The OP coin appears grainy and the colors on the reverse also not natural.
I don't know how anyone can make a determination from those crappy photos. The barcode scans correctly and it has the same rotation in the slab as the NGC images. If a scammer went to that level of detail it's a new one for me.
My first thought was that the fonts match better than any of the fake slabs I've seen. My second thought, after reading @johnmilton's comments, is that I'm still not convinced this isn't just really bad photography, possibly combined with a coin changing in the holder. I guess a counterfeiter could find a nearly-identical coin with bad color, produce a visually perfect fake holder, and position the coin exactly the same as the real example -- but I don't think I've seen it happen yet. My final thought is that I'm glad I'm not shopping in today's environment.
It seems like it would be so much easier to just steal the NGC photos and then ship the buyer junk in a junk slab. @Adavis$$ if you're that interested in buying it, ask the seller for better images. There are some obvious marks that you could compare. I see a couple things that could be the same on both - below the L close to Liberty's hair and a ding on the rim at 3:30.
Is it possible that there could have been some substance on the coin when it was slabed that over time dramatically changed the surface?
A legit seller wouldn't use such crappy photos. They would make the item clear to read, see, check up. Crappy photos are used intentionally as a deception. OK not 100% of the time, but basically yes. If you gamble on bad photos it's not going to end well.