Found a 2015 D Double Die Jefferson

Found this in pocket change today.

There's doubling in Liberty and the date.


And in the ear.

 

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I'm not so sure. Maybe it's the lighting playing tricks on you.

Chris

 

Ha not this time. The notching at the tops of the letters and date clearly confirmed it. The right nostril is also doubled.

 

Machine doubling.......I doubt it's a doubled die.

 

Those notches aren't indicative of hub doubling. The other letters show that "dimple" too, but they are rounded at the top.

Chris

 

It is notching indicative of hub doubling and is very easy to see in hand, I just can't get a decent photo of it because when I put light in a direction that it is easily seen, my camera puts a white spot there. The split on the upper serif of the 5 is easier to see in the above photo because it's not so white. I gave up on trying to get a better photo but not giving up on the coin. I will send this one in along with another couple that I have, why I don't know, but if nothing else, it will be to just to get a better photo.

 

Notching is simply a term that someone made up because they couldn't remember split serifs.

Below are examples of split serifs.





You go ahead and believe what you want, but I still contend that your coin is not a doubled die.

Chris

 

I'm all for people collecting what they want and what makes them happy but does it matter? Even if you're right, it's so small would anybody care enough for there to be a premium?

 

that's neat.

 

How can you have split serifs on lettering that has no serifs? That is why I called it notching.

 

No it really doesn't matter. No more than a die crack or chip or cud or nail......... I just pass the time looking for things that the rest of the world says isn't there. After all, we all should know by now the world is flat.

 

Not a ddo sorry

 

You're seeing what you want to see because you don't know better. There's a solution for that. Study the subject matter and you'll know better.

 

It is not possible to have doubling such as what Chris posted on modern US coins. The mint has changed their technique of producing dies, and they use a "single squeeze" method now, instead of a double hubbing. With this method, any doubling on a coin will occur near the center of the design, and is usually quite minor. What you are seeing is machine doubling. You will not find doubling like you are claiming on modern coins.

 

Excuse me. Before you go and try and insult someone's intelligence, you should check your own.

 

I'm going to take this as a comment from someone who as we say here in the South, "Bless his heart, he just doesn't know any better."
https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com/listings/cat/7

https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com/listings/cat/56
All of these coins are Wexler's listings on https://doubleddie.com.

Do you remember post #7 in this thread?

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/2014-jefferson-ddr.270217/#post-2265100

The coin in this one, is one of those listed on the websites above.

 

This type of doubling occurs during the Single Squeeze Hubbing process when the hub and working die faces aren't perfectly square to each other. When pressure is applied, at some point the faces will slip and align square. At that point, any devices that have formed, become skewed or doubled. Mint employees knew that when they heard a pop when pressure was applied, slight doubling would occur, but they didn't know why. It was because the faces of the two dies were not exactly parallel when they started. Have they fixed the problem? The answer is no, as there are a good number of 2016 coins with "angled" hub doubling listed now.

Edit to add: This doubling can also occur when pressure is released from the die.

 

It's not "doubling," it's "smearing." And I don't collect smeared dies just because some "expert" doesn't know enough to know the difference.

 

Perhaps you can explain the difference between the different kinds of hub doubling so that anyone who reads this would understand.