My last purchase of 2016

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  1. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    After running it through CT's resident expert on coins with this mythological figure, I acquired one of my own. It wasn't crazy urgent but I did want to add a man-faced bull coin to my collection. I also wanted a coin from Magna Graecia. So when this coin came up in one of my searches I decided to go for it. I purchased this on the last day of 2016, so it just barely made it as my last coin of last year!

    Neapolis, Campania
    AR nomos
    Obv: Head of nymph right, wearing broad headband, triple-pendant earring, and pearl necklace
    Rev: Man-headed bull walking right, head facing; above, Nike flying right, placing wreath on bull's head; NEOΠOΛITΩN in exergue
    Mint: Neapolis
    Date: Mid-late 4th century BC

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    In ancient Greek mythology, Achelous was the patron god of the river of the same name in Greece. However, earlier before this, Achelous had originally been the god of all water. His status as the protector of the largest river in Greece elevated him to be the most important of all the river gods, and according to Homer, Achelous was the creator of all of the fresh water in the world. This legend persisted into Roman times. In addition to being a man-faced bull, he also was depicted as either a gray-haired old man or a younger bearded man with horns and a serpent-like body.

    The man-faced bull was something found among several of the cultures surrounding the Mediterranean, and is thought to ultimately have an Eastern origin, being spread to Europe by way of seafarers. It also became a popular symbol among Greek mercenaries. The idea of Achelous taking the form of a man-faced bull originated with the Etruscans in the 8th century BC.

    Achelous was said to have been the son of either Oceanus and Gaia, or Oceanus and Tethys. He came into conflict with Heracles over who would wed Deianeira, the daughter of King Oeneus. During the battle, Achelous, who was in human form, transformed into a bull and then had one of his horns pulled off. The defeated Achelous then had to trade the goat horn of Amalthea for his own broken horn. In addition to this story there are a few more myths as well.

    Ovid's description of Achelous's dwelling in Metamorphoses, ("made of spongy pumice, and rough tuff. The floor was moist with soft moss, and the ceiling banded with freshwater mussel and oyster shells.") served as an inspiration for the development of 16th century Italian mannerist garden grottos, and Italian midday meals were influenced by the food Achelous served to Theseus.

    (Source: Achelous on Wikipedia)

    Achelous:

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    Achelous vs Heracles:

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    Neapolis (modern-day Naples, Italy):

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    Magna Graecia:

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    I wonder how Achelous would fare in a fight against Manbearpig from South Park?! :woot:

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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Ya gotta love dem MFB (not so much the MBP)
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Oh GOSH.. why did I look at and read this thread.. Now I'm going to have my first nightmare of 2017! :zombie:
     
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  5. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Bet placed on MFB, got it! :D

    Oops! (and by that I mean "muah hah hah hah" :vamp:)
     
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  6. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    IDK, MBP is tough
     
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  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Cool silver MFB... some really nice detail on the face.

    Sorry, but I can't resist posting my somewhat radioactive-looking Neapolis AE whenever the opportunity presents itself :D.

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    CAMPANIA, Neapolis
    AE20. 6.05g, 20.3mm. CAMPANIA, Neapolis, circa 270 - 250 BC. MSP I, 328; Taliercio IIIa.6 (13 ex.); Sambon 656; SNG France 986. O: NEOΠΟΛΙΤΩΝ, laureate head of Apollo left, gamma behind. R: Man-faced bull walking right, head facing, crowned by Nike flying right above; beneath bull, IΣ; X monogram in exergue.
     
  8. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    No need to apologize for a really nice coin! When I go for a bronze, I'll want something at least close to this or better.

    I figure its usually a given to post anything related to the OP so I don't really specify in my threads to post your coins. If it helps generate interest in the thread and provides something to look at, then its welcome in my book!
     
  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow, fantastic OP-addition, Jango ... congrats on the man-faced bull

    ... oh, and Z-bro, that coin always makes me jealous (great eye-appeal)

    Ummm, I have a couple of cool man-faced bull coin thingies ...

    Campania, Cales AE20
    265-240 BC


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    Neapolis, Campania, AR Nomos
    320-300 BC

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    ... again => congrats on your sweet OP-addition, Mat

    Happy New Coin-Year!! (I wanna see lots of big AE winnas!!)

    :rolleyes:
     
  10. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the comments+likes so far!
     
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  11. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    ManBearPig - he's real, I'm super serial!:wacky:

    Sweet MFBs. I want one so bad.

    Erin
     
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  12. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Ok, calm down Al Gore :rolleyes:

    Thanks Erin!
     
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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice MFB @ValiantKnight ! Way to end out the 2016 year! I really like these MFB's!

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    Campania Neapolis 320-300 BC AR Nomos Nymph Achelous
    Mine kinda has that "Eyes without a Face" look...


    Sicily Gela AR Litra Horse-Achelous 0.63g 13mm 465-450 BCE Obv-Rev HGC 2 p 373.JPG
    Sicily Gela AR Litra Horse-Achelous 0.63g 13mm 465-450 BCE Obv-Rev HGC 2 p 373


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    Campania AE Apollo-Achelous -275-250BCE PLATE COIN 3 KNOWN RARE SNG ANS 474 - Listed Potamikon pg 232 Plate 343
     
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  14. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Great set Al! My favorite is the litra.
     
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  15. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Great choice VK!
     
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  16. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Nice example and you got a great deal.

    In my opinion it is Acheloios Sebethos as a man-faced bull on the reverse. You might be interested in the inexpensive eBook version of Potamikon, only 19GBP from the publisher (Archaeopress). There we explain the theory of local embodiments of Acheloios.
     
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  17. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    I definitely am more intrigued and interested now about MFB so I will most likely buy the eBook, probably next week though because of FUN. Thanks for the tip Nicholas!
     
  18. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    For those interested, stay tuned for when I post the in hand pics! :) (after it arrives of course)
     
  19. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Learned something new today:shame: !
     
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  20. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Man faced bull/bull bodied man is on my wish list now!

    Look what you've done here @Nicholas Molinari !
     
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  21. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Aw don't blame the guy! Who wouldn't want something that looks like it grew up around Chernobyl :D
     
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