Ay CARRumba!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Cascade, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I certainly will. AND I will hold you accountable for not doing more to protect the hobby from such potential scammers.
     
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  3. dcarr

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    As I stated, I'm not a litigious person. But if somebody starts it, I will finish it.

    "bending over backwards" ? I don't think so.
     
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  4. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    The everyone needs to be protected from themselves line of thinking saddens me. More than likely they would pay about the market rate for the piece. Almost all of them sell for a 100 to a couple hundred of dollars. Many dealers swing far bigger margins on low balling people all the time.


    They aren't 5 or 10 dollar items you could sell to someone for a 100. They're already basically a hundred dollar item for any of them if not more. If anyone is going to shell out several hundred or more than a grand without doing any research with how available the internet is it is hard for me to feel sorry for them. If it happened to someone I knew I would tell them what they actually have.
     
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  5. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    In this country we don't hold a gun manufacturer liable if someone murders someone with their product, i don't see how you could hold a fantasy coin manufacturer to a higher standard if someone uses his product to commit fraud
     
  6. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    I had a chance to look at one of those at last months small local coin meeting.
    It too stirrd up some contentious comments.
    The short answer to the issue is you like it or you don't.
    We moved on rather quickly to other shiny things to drool over.
     
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  7. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Oh god. This is a bunch of BS. I posted to show off a new purchase and I wake up to this. This needs to stop. The 50 page thread a week ago was fine because the OP started the thread as he was curious and wanted to get responses on Carr items in general. This thread bombing of new purchase threads is down right rude. You guys need to get off your high horses. I don't mind this ad naseum discussion on threads created specifically for such a discussion but to do what you "forum few" are doing is total BS. Only 12hrs later and 8 pages in. Good lord.
     
  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Please refrain from ridiculous analogies. They never work... He created it and can choose to add an additional (a-hem) "safety" to his product. But he chooses not to and accepts no responsibility. Maybe one day he'll come around.
     
  9. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    the analogy is not ridiculous, gun companies can include tech that already exists to prevent an unauthorized user from operating the weapon but choose not to
     
  10. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Who are you blaming for thread bombing? I count 6 pro-Carr members, 4 mods, and 5 non Carr supporters, plus a couple neutral parties. Most of us are participating in an interesting discussion. But I'm sorry that the thread isn't what you meant it to be.
     
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  11. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    It was pretty spot on. Coins don't make people commit fraud anymore than spoons make people fat or cars make people drive drunk. It is the person that commits the act not the object
     
  12. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    It is ridiculous. Ending a life > fraud.
     
  13. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Your kidding right, go see the movie " run away jury " and it's best on a real story too ..
     
  14. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    my premis is that murder is indeed a greater crime. If we don't hold a manufacturer responsible for the greater then why would we hold the manufacturer liable for the lesser?
     
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  15. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    read up on The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act
     
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  16. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    These coins are not part of the hobby, thats why their Fantasy Pieces and nothing more .........
     
  17. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Oh yes they are. As much as hobo nickles, elongated cents, love tokes etc are. And they are much more than "fantasy pieces." They are numismatic art of the highest caliber.
     
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  18. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Like it or not fantasy pieces are part of the hobby
     
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  19. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Wouldnt calling Mr Carr a counterfeiter be considered slander? Which gives him the right to sue? Im a little rusty on my tort law and maybe sombody has already covered it.
     
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  20. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    The law means nothing anymore, it's all about the cases that have won and sued the gun manufacturers .

    Go see the movie, the gun manufacture was sued hundred of millions of dollars and the law firm was bankrupt after the smoke cleared ....
     
  21. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Maybe your hobby, but not the variety & error hobby ..
     
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