Still processing my latest haul....horsemen everywhere!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by maridvnvm, Dec 28, 2016.

  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I am still phorographing and processing my coins from late December. I am still waiting for some more coins to arrive.......

    Here is a montage of the fallen horsemen I have just finished showing their comparative sizes.

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    They are mainly run of the mill stuff. I like the details of a couple of them though:-

    Constantius II - AE2

    Obv:– D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG, Pearl diademed, draped & cuirassed bust right, A behind bust
    Rev:– FEL TEMP REPARATIO, Helmeted soldier to left, shield on left arm, spearing falling horseman; shield on ground at right. Horseman is bearded and falls forward clutching horse's neck
    Minted in Antioch (G | _ //ANS).
    Reference:- RIC VIII Antioch 135

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    Constantius II - AE2

    Obv:– D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG, Pearl diademed, draped & cuirassed bust right, A behind bust
    Rev:– FEL TEMP REPARATIO, Helmeted soldier to left, shield on left arm, spearing falling horseman; shield on ground at right. Horseman is seated on the ground reaching towards emperor
    Minted in Lugdunum (A | _ //SLG*)
    Reference:- RIC VIII Lugdunum 102

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    It's not all horsemen though....

    I have added another Emperor standing on captive type.

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    Another emperor and two captives

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    A phoenix on globe

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    and some of them aren't FEL TEMP types

    Constantius II - AE2

    Obv:– D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG, Pearl diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right (A behind bust, star before)
    Rev:– HOC SIG-NO VICTOR ERIS, Constantius standing left, holding labarum, being crowned by Victory
    Minted in Siscia (A | _ //Dot GSIS Dot). Struck under Vetranio, 350 AD.
    Reference:- RIC VIII Siscia 286 (S)

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  3. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I think that emperor and two captives Fel Temp has exceptional style and eye appeal. Love it!
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Thanks Martin: it is fun seeing the various styles and relative sizes of this Type. That Phoenix / Globe reverse is very nice.
     
  6. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Let them falling here :D
     
  7. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    This coin set perfectly shows how much damage Constantius II's and Magnentius's civil war in 351CE did to the Roman economy. Constantius would also reduce the weight of Siliquae by 1/3 in 355.

    Lovely coins btw!
    Keep em' coming!:D
     
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  8. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    What a cool and interesting array of varieties. I love the AE-2's !!
     
  9. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Some nice examples of an interesting type!
     
  10. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Wonderful detail on these coins. I like to imagine I can see poor barbarian's facial expression as he stares down that spear on that Lugdunum AE2.
     
  11. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    A while back I watched a documentary on the Sutton Hoo Anglo-Saxon ship burial and its famous helmet (reconstructed in the photo). The documentary made a passing reference to the Roman motif of the soldier spearing a fallen barbarian. The documentary implied that this coinage reverse type enjoys an “afterlife” as one of the tin panels on the helmet. I wonder about tracing such influence, or if this is just what it looks like when people get trampled by horses in war. Nonetheless, it was a provocative early medieval (7th c.) connection to this reverse type. Sutton Hoo.jpg
     
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  12. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    That is simply an outstanding lot of FH! You have yourself a nice hoard of coins to keep you busy for a while!
     
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Good lot but I'll be difficult and ask what made the Antioch shop 13 attractive to you? Was it that it was a high shop number? I have seen more good ones with lower numbers. RIC assigns rarity numbers by the type not separating the shop but I suspect it would be hard to assemble a set of 15 AE2, gamma standard Antioch in attractive condition. My best high numbers are 12 and 14:
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    For those who want to play in the Horseman pond:
    The hard mints are Amiens and Trier. Please show the ones you have. Gallus is a mite harder to find than Constantius II. I lack the Constans horseman from Trier. No one has an Amiens Constans since the mint opened after his death.
    Amiens (Note the distinctive way the hair is bound at the neck. This allow ID of coins without mintmarks or those you might think are Antioch ANB rather than AMB.)
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    Trier
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    Amiens Gallus
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    Trier Gallus
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  14. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    It was indeed a cheap example of a high officina number.

    I am missing Amiens and Trier and very much regret spending too long considering a VF+ example of Constantius from Amiens earlier this year which was gone by the time I went back to buy it.

    I have only recently taken an interest in these and am continuing to learn and acquire.
     
  15. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    A nice haul. You already know I like the Arles. The Lugdunum is a neat one too.


    Here is my Amiens. As rough as it is, it's one of my favorites. 006.JPG


    I think I have 2 Trier, but the other shows no mint, so I'll just post this one.
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  16. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    A (relative) newbie question: why might a high officina/shop number be particularly desirable?
     
  17. Black Friar

    Black Friar Well-Known Member

    Fun group, thanks for the show and tell.
     
  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    It is not more desirable unless you are trying to fill the set or show that Antioch mint used more workshops than other cities. 99% of collectors would rather have a EF from a common mint than a coin like the Trier and Amiens examples shown above. Some of the 1% folks post here.
     
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  19. wmichael

    wmichael Active Member

    Holy cats on that 1st. large photo coin! Even mussel tone in the legs.
     
  20. Felisin

    Felisin Member

    Wow, great haul. That's a really neat subject matter I hadn't seen before. Definitely want one now.
     
  21. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Great OP photo showing the relative sizes. I, too, have always found the FEL TEMP coins interesting. (Hence, the name of my personal web site: feltemp.com). So many interesting types: fallen horseman, phoenix, emperor on galley, emperor leading barbarian, emperor with captives. (On coins from Thessalonica there is only one captive; why is this?) According to RIC there is also an emperor on horseback type, but I've never been able to track one down.

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    Not my coin; the photo is from Wildwinds.

    "Constantius II, AE3, Rome.

    DN CONSTAN-TIVS PF AVG, pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed
    bust left, holding globe, N behind head.
    FEL TEMP REPARATIO, Emperor nimbate and in military dress,
    with shield on left arm, on horseback galloping right,
    thrusting his spear at two barbarians wearing pointed
    Phrygian helmets, who kneel before him with their arms
    raised towards him.
    Mintmark RT

    RIC VIII Rome 153, rated R2.

    Helios Numismatik, ebay sale, Feb. 2012."

    I've often wondered if, taken together, the FEL TEMP coins are intended to tell a single epic story.
     
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