New Error Reported-2009 $10.00 Bill

I got it from our bank, I got lucky I didn't spend it, took it to a currency show and the guys looking at it had trouble picking their jaws off the floor, now it's authentic and graded time to find out value, got to locate someone to look at it.

 

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But it isn't "it" at all. Intaglio printing, by definition, leaves ink that's raised above the paper. Rubber stamps use much more watery ink that soaks into the paper. If you take an intaglio-printed note and rubber-stamp it, of *course* the intaglio ink will stand higher off the paper than the rubber-stamp ink. You don't need 100x magnification to know that. Can anybody explain what exactly looks different--under magnification or otherwise--between a note where the rubber stamp was applied before the other printing, and one where it was applied after?

 

I imagine the only way to know for sure is if you had a known example of a pre-printed stock error and compared it to a known post-printed stock error and compared the differences and/or similarities of the two.

I've always wondered about how anyone could tell the difference. I've seen photos with extreme magnification of examples, and you could make a case either way.

 

Which is why I previously suggested having someone from Crane or BEP examine these notes. If Crane and/or the BEP said these stamps with the same font face appear on Crane paper used by BEP it would make for more solid provenance.

 

You can clearly see that the serial numbers and other printings on the bill in the area are overlaying the stamp approved meaning the bill is a authentic error

 

Numbers has a point wrt watery inks and gels that soak in. I was under the assumption that the errant print was under the intaglio. If it was post intaglio there would be evidence of it on top of the raised intaglio ink. That is unless it was then washed off the intaglio ink after it was applied. Steve and lettow have some solutions. I guess if I had to lay hard cash on the table to buy this I would pass without further authentication. Still a mystery.

 

Philatelists have very advanced methods of determining when an overprint was added before or after a stamp was cancelled. The same with determining if a stamp was always on a cover, or was added later with an "authenticating" bogus postmark seeming to attach it. The same with determining if an apparently mint stamp ever had a cancellation mark. I bet the boys at APS could give you some ideas.
Here's an idea - see if you can identify the "APPROVED" stamp's manufacturer. "Approved" is a common enough subject of a stamp to probably be made as a standard product by a number of companies, with changes over the years.
Of course, it could be a custom job made for an inspector tired of writing the word and his initials, and its source is so obscure as to be indeterminable.
I'll say this - based purely on the images, it looks to me like "APPROVED" was already on the sheet when the note was printed. I also don't think PMG would go out on such a limb if they weren't pretty sure; being wrong could severely damage their credibility.

 

I think you would be able to see the blue over the gold on the # 20 and the eagle. Looks legit to me.

 

The graded $20 has an obvious 'APPROVED' stamp on it. Whether its under, over, sideways, inside, outside, is beyond me but what I want know is what is the stamp on the $10? I can make out the following:

D A _ E K

Can't make out the middle character. Can anyone make sense of this or determine different characters? To me the orientation and the fact that its partially missing points to a bank / teller strap stamp. There is also a smudge or partial ink next to Alex's left ear curly locks.

 

"DALEK"?

EX-TER-MIN-ATE!

 

I saw one of those before .. in my hands and I spent it.
Oh well, I don't know much about paper other than I like getting it, saving it and spending it.