1977 Kennedy ~90 degree Rotated Die

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  1. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    Found this roll searching. The Reverse also looks like it has a doubled edge.
    1977 Half Die Rotation (3).JPG 1977 Half Die Rotation (5).JPG 1977 Half Die Rotation (6).jpg 1977 Half Die Rotation (8).jpg
     

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Nice rotation! This is the second coin shown on CoinTalk today with a 90 degree.
    The Reverse is a Misaligned Die Strike. So you have a Major and a Minor error together!
    Thanks for sharing
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I just thought of something though... maybe it could be a Magicians Coin
    The Obverse is the shell and the Reverse is the insert. Try dropping it on a hard surface to see if it pops out!

    There is a magic trick called Scotch and soda. The Outer part is the shell and the inner part is called the plug. Looks like this. Mexican coin on the other side. 20121211_1972KennedyMagCoinObvShellandPlug.jpg
     
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  5. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    Think this might be a magicians coin?
     
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  6. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    What does the reeding on this coin look like? I ask Because it looks like it may have been machined and put together. The edge of the reverse could be some sort of crimp.
     
  7. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    Okay, took it out of the holder and dropped it 3 times on edge. Nothing.
    Here are a few more close ups of the edge.
     

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  8. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    That was my first thought when I saw how separated the rim looked on the reverse. A sharp knife should pry that reverse out. I've never seen a Kennedy rotated out of tolerance, much less a 90.
     
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  9. Old Error Guy

    Old Error Guy Well-Known Member

    A scotch and soda set will sound very different than a regular half. The easiest way to take them apart is shaking it in a glass. (Yeah magic is my other hobby)
     
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  10. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    If it has been machined and crimped it will not come apart. If there is three marks on the reeding 120 degrees apart, that would be a sign that it was chucked into a machine lathe to hollow out the reverse. It could also have been done by gluing to a spindle and then remove the glue. the reverse would surely has been done with a glued spindle. Can you check the weight to see if may be different?
     
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  11. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    It weighs 10.9 g compared to others I have ranging from 11.0 to 11.3 g. It also does not have the 'ting' when dropped flat like a normal coin.
    DANG! I thought I had something good. Thanks all for the comments and help with this. Anybody want a Magician's coin?
     
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  12. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    It would be cool to have one of those.

    Recently a magicians coin was used on a Network TV show called Designated Survivor. It was used by a CIA analyst who snuck a very small flash drive out of the secure area. It was in the form of a quarter though. Pretty cool to have seen it on TV. The name of the episode was "A traitor among us".
     
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  13. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    My wife and I like this show. I actually did see that episode and thought that having a coin like that would be cool. Now, just to open this one and see if it has a chip inside! ;)
     
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  14. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Someone mentioned before to put it in a bottle and shake it. Try a glass jar. Rattle it around a bit until both the cover and plug separate. Unless it's glued.
     
  15. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    yeah, what paddyman said. I did this before with a cardboard box (couldn't find a glass jar... d'oh!). It took a while shaking it in a circular motion. I soaked it in acetone, too because mine was glued together for some unknown reason.
     
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  16. medjoy

    medjoy Active Member

    My Magician's Kennedy 1989D is hollowed out and weighs 7.51g
     
  17. Earle42

    Earle42 Member

    Google "bang ring." I got an aluminum one on ebay a few years ago for 1.25, but I see now they are more expensive than that.
    It is a device specifically made to get these apart. I had one stubborn enough that no matter the shaking in the glass, it would not come apart.

    These magician coins are also also known with old Brit pennies. I found a total of 10 of these coins roll searching over the years.
     
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