1851 Quarter Eagle Contemporary Counterfeit

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  1. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I bought this from Bill Fivaz last night at a coin club meeting. I had never seen one of these before, and the price was right.

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  3. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    your quote ""Life is like a box of chocolates." Google Mandela effect. The correct quote is now "Life WAS like a box of chocolates"
     
  4. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

  5. ldhair

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  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    excellent pick up
     
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  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Did these start off with a gold wash or something to make them look like gold?
     
  8. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I have no idea. I see no evidence of something like that being applied. Maybe there was a high zinc content to make this brass, which can look like gold to an untrained eye. Does brass tone this brown?
     
  9. deacon2828

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  10. Colonialjohn

    Colonialjohn Active Member

    Yes - any collector that would not like this piece is simply a rookie. Won't say stupid as I am trying to behave myself as I get older. But - more importantly it would not surprise me if XRF analysis may detect gold in the 1-5 % range or still be seen in hidden crevices visually (i.e., a yellowish hue within the lettering). Normally gold at this level is invisible to the naked eye and its hard to imagine this piece was released as a high pure copper alloy issue in its day.

    David Wnuck has sold SIMILAR pieces in the past on his FPL and would give you a good profit margin on this piece - IMO.

    My new book on CCs due out around 3/2017 via Amazon Books will explain these issues - FULLY - indirectly. Indirectly since I discuss these gold mercuric wash copper types mostly with Foreign CCs from 1500-1800 in a 100 page chapter.

    John Lorenzo
    Numismatist
    United States
     
  11. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    That's really cool.
     
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