Trajan/Plotina OR Claudius/Agrippina II ??

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Who do you think are portrayed on this little provincial bronze?

  1. Trajan and Plotina

    1 vote(s)
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  2. Claudius and Agrippina II

    3 vote(s)
    75.0%
  3. None of the above

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    The identities of the rulers portrayed on this little coin from Claudia Leucas (Balanea) in Sryia have been a puzzle to numismatists for a long time. Whoever they are, the coin portrays the emperor and empress as the sun and the moon.

    Trajan and Plotina.jpg
    Roman Provincial AE 15
    Syria: Coele-Syria, Claudia Leucas (Balanea)
    3.06 g; 15.2 mm
    Obv: ΛΕVΚΑΔΙ ωΝ, radiate head of emperor, r.
    Rev: ΤωΝΚΑI ΚΛΑVΔΙΑΙωΝ, head of empress, r., wearing crescent.
    Refs: SGI 508; BMC 20, p. 296, no. 1, pl. XXXVII, 1; Lindgren I 2180; RPC I 4465

    Sear and the British Museum attribute it to Claudius and Agrippina II. I think Lindgren follows suit, but since I don't have Lindgren I, I'm not sure. (Would somebody with Lindgren I be so kind as to look it up for me? Thanks!)

    However, as noted by Imhoof-Blumer, and reiterated by RPC, the obverse bust has Trajan's features, with a similarity to other coins of Trajan from Claudia Leucas (Balanea). In addition, the reverse has the facial features and hairstyle of Plotina.
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Hmm. My first thought is that the obverse portrait looks like Nero. If Nero, the reverse might be Agrippina Jr (his mom), Claudia Octavia (Nero's first wife), or Poppaea (Nero's second wife).

    I wonder why the reverse is thought to be an empress rather than simply the Greek goddess Selene?
     
  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    It's not unusual for coins to depict the emperor as the sun and the empress as the moon. See, for example, this one of Augustus and Livia from Colonia Romula in Spain. The obverse depicts Augustus with a radiate crown and has a star/sun above his head, while the reverse depicts Livia with a crescent on her head.

    Augustus and Livia Hispalis.jpg
    Roman Provincial AE 31
    Spain: Hispalis, Colonia Romula AD 14-29
    Obv: PERM DIVI AVG COL ROM, radiate head of Augustus, right; thunderbolt before, star/sun above.
    Rev: IVLIA AVGVSTA GENETRIX ORBIS, head of Livia left; globe beneath, crescent above.
    Refs: RPC 73, SGI 189; Heiss p. 393, no. 2; Cohen p. 169, no. 3; Alvarez Burgos 1587; Lindgren II 69; SNG Cop. 421.25.70; SNG Tuebingen 118; FAB 1587.
     
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  5. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Once something has been published by experts, it's difficult to change people's opinions. The BMC is apparently the earliest published listing of this coin. It attributes it to Claudius/Agrippina II. Sear (and I think Lindgren, but I don't have Lindgren I to verify) follow suit.

    BMC, vol 20, p. 296, no. 1:

    Trajan and Plotina BMC 20 p 296.JPG

    Here's pl. XXXVII, but the copy on Google books is of very low quality at reproducing the plate:

    Trajan and Plotina BMC 20 pl XXXVII.JPG

    And here's the listing in Sear:

    Trajan and Plotina SGI listing.jpg

    Once it has been attributed in the past, it's "set in stone" and people are reluctant to argue with the traditional attributions.
     
  6. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    My first thought (before reading @TIF answer) would've been young Nero

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  7. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    my first thought as well!
     
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