Morgan grade opinions?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Barney McRae, Dec 12, 2024.

  1. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

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  3. Pickin and Grinin

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    Yeah, I salvage any and all useable woods. As a remodeler, I use it in my projects.
     
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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    If you have to angle the coin, just make sure you tilt the camera to try and catch the coin from a 90 degree angle as possible find some lights and start playing with a phone set up. Your other isn't getting the job done. If I was if FL, I would give you a hand. All you need to stabilize a phone is a soup can. My earliest photos here used four Lincoln rolls and a good light.
     
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  5. RonSanderson

    RonSanderson Supporter! Supporter

    I just used a full roll of toilet paper as my phone stand. I thought the white paper would reflect the light onto the coin from another direction and help make a better shot. Your stand is downright elegant, so I shouldn’t really be talking about toilet paper in the same sentence.
     
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  6. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    There you go.......assuming I have a smart phone. LOL! I have a coin microscope and a 35 mm camera. I still have a flip phone,.because I can. It takes photos, but not coin worthy....... :D You have no idea how much I hate phones. I get angry when it rings.

    I used to have the old technology cell phone that had a slideout alpha numeric keypad that I could type text messages faster than a court reporter.......but sadly, they don't make those anymore. I just hate all phones. They are just overpriced cameras. :p
     
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  7. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    61.
     
  8. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    That’s why you buy the coin
     
  9. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Thursday night football games stink
     
  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    And you don't have to adjust it yourself. Good photos rarely happen without some adjustment. Hey, find a tube that fits in your stand and then find another tube to extend it. You can even do it like this LOL. A camera stand I built cause I didn't have the money.
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  11. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I had all kinds of crazy lights hanging off that contraption.
     
  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I am anxious to see what Numistrust graded it. I have been known to find a few nice undergraded and quality coins in them.
     
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  13. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    How do you do that Lighting thing with your Pics.?
     
  14. RonSanderson

    RonSanderson Supporter! Supporter

    I have a picture of my setup in this post Post your coin photography set-up

    The camera stand, the camera, and the coin all sit on a little turntable. There are two Ikea lights up near the lens, at the 10 and 2 o’clock positions. A third light is very low to remove a shadow at the left side of the head.

    I rotate the coin through 9 positions by hand, covering about a 90 degree rotation. Then I crop the photos, join the obverse and reverse pairs, then join those 9 images into an animation. There is more information in the referenced thread as well as Animation and Coin Photography.
     
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  15. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I see it as a 64 all day
     
  16. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I would say it's a 64
    (65 if lucky and 63 if the divot mentioned previously is significant in hand)
    ....I would likely not send this to grade. As it stands, you can probably get 63 money and maybe almost 64 (which isn't a big spread). Even as a 65, you don't gain enough reward (give or take $50) for it to be worth spending $25-$30 in grading fees.
     
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  17. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    Oh you will laugh. Suffice it to say, it is NOT undergraded. :D
     
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  18. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    I only use ANACS for mere mortal coins. It's not that expensive as that, and even cheaper if you do submissions in economy mode. The downside is that it's taking them at least two months these days to get them back. ANACS is a tougher grader than they are given credit for, seems they are technical graders and totally discount eye appeal. If I had a really special coin, I would send to PCGS and bite the fee bullet. That's not a knock on NGC, I just like their holders and PCGS is king of the market graders. I wish ANACS would go back to their soapbox holders. Simple, but elegant. Their yellow dogs aren't attractive to me.
     
  19. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Anacs is better in terms of fees, especially if you submit on one of their specials. And they are solid, especially when it comes to Morgans. I would still not recommend sending this coin in unless it's done as a learning experience (meaning you know that the value won't be significantly increased but you still want to do it as a test of seeing what grade they give).
     
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  20. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    Pickin I've got coin in hand. I still can't take a decent photo. But I have two coins side by side. A blast white 1879 S, PCGS MS66 next to it. I see little difference in the details/flaws between them. That little bit of lamination missing is barely visible to the naked eye. It is not a distraction at all. The 79 S has a tiny one as well in nearly the same position. The 79S is blast white while this one (1886) has some rim toning, but it cartwheels just as nicely. Some people actually prefer this kind of toning to generic blast white. The seller's photo does not capture the luster, nor can I. Mine are so bad I'm not going to even bother posting them. I'm going to send it off to be graded and attributed at ANACS at some point regardless. NTC grades it 67. :p:eek::p If it comes back without attribution, I will send the slab to VSS. 1886 18.JPG 1886 8's.JPG 1886 6.JPG

    I have a favor to ask of anyone reading. I believe it's a Top 50 VAM, Vam20, doubled date. It's got a doubled inner ear, forgot to take a photo of it. But here is the date magnified closely. There is doubling on each numeral at the bottom of every digit. There is also the pickup point of the hook in the lower portion of the 6. The hook kind of seals the deal, at least that is my thought. Take a peek at VAM World for this coin. I saved you all the hard work. I spent a couple of hours looking.
     
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  21. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I am not seeing the raised metal under the 1 or the curve in the 6. Also the 6 on VAM-20 is closed.
     
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