1861-O Half dollar. Do you know this variety?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by H8_modern, Nov 24, 2024.

  1. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    Thought it might be fun to see how well known this variety is.

    Here are the photos I saw on eBay

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    and here are some pics I took to make it a little easier

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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Nice but I’m not a variety collector.
     
  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Didn't take me that long. I will say that it isn't in the CherryPicker's guide.
     
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  5. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I think I got it. I remembered something about it but the one I remembered is probably a different year (or denomination?). NGC has it, I think.

    Edit: NGC also says about the other one "It should be noted that, in addition to the [variety], this sub-type is distinguished by a much larger protuberance of Liberty's gown to the left of her shield. Historically, this mass has been described as a rock, but in fact it is simply her bunched up gown, as she sits upon a chair that is obscured by her gown in Christian Gobrecht's adopted model of Thomas Sully's obverse design. This chair was plainly evident in Sully's earlier sketches."

    Gosh, I always thought she was sitting on a rock.
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2024
  6. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Speared olive bud, nice!
     
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  7. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Not what I was thinking of. Perhaps there are two?
     
  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    One is just a no drapery.
     
  9. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Well I think there are three different things on this coin.
     
  10. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    Yes, this is the W-14 Bisected date and speared olive bud.

    Generally I’m with @Collecting Nut and don’t collect varieties but coins struck by the CSA while they had taken over the New Orleans mint is important enough that I made an exception.
     
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  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I totally agree. :)
     
  12. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    We are all missing.. Something?
     
  14. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    I hope not. The drapery is not a factor for me. The important part is that it’s a W-14 CSA issue.

    “W-14 is also one of the varieties of the 1861-O half dollar that Bill Bugert (2013) attributes to the Confederate States of America. On this variety, a die crack bisects the date along the left edge of the digit 6 and the upper olive berry on the reverse is bisected by a pair of parallel lines.”
     
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